30+ Dungeons

[Chezwick]

Hi all,

Im a LVL 36 PLD who recently completely Brayflox and Qarn. I noticed a huge increase in the amount of damage I starting taking in these 2 dungeons as opposed to pre-30 instances. Is this working as intended or are the dungeons supposed to increase damage dealt at this point? Also, is it time to start utilizing CC, or are my issues possibly gear related?

Thanks in advance.

[Kryzen]

working as intended... game is designed to ease you into the end game difficulty of things and 30+ is when it starts to kick in noticeably.

[Binauralman]

I felt the pain as soon as I ran Bray, and was told how horrible I am. Granted, its a crappy feeling being told how bad you suck but I immediately knew I was doing something wrong when I was literally holding no aggro on mob sets.

I researched on forums, ran over my spells and am practicing Manor to get a better taste of rotation. However, many DPS is not helping the situations for tanks learning these instances, considering the aggro spread and how difficult it is getting threat back or chasing 1 mob off a healer while trying to manage the rest of the pull. Further I'm on the PS3 and the targeting is incredibly difficult,its easy to misclick and your spamming [O] to cancel your targeting or your camera gets all jacked up from R3 or L3 lock.
Overall, I sincerely hope the community understands that making fun or calling tanks terrible will only makes those queues longer, especially considering how many people are simply new to MMO's.

[Shmashed]

I felt the pain as soon as I ran Bray, and was told how horrible I am

I can relate to this. I have been playing summoner and I would group with my sister who is a warrior on PS3. Damage intake was just unexpectedly through the roof for bray. It is unlike any previous dungeons in this regard. All too often people start giving her a hard time saying she sucks, which she can take a bit too personally. To shut the prima donna healers up, I decided I'd do scholar from now on instead. She has gotten better as shes become more familiar with the game (and MMOs as a whole), but the PS3 thing really is a handicap that I do not see a way around. It is such a severe limitation that I have been trying to talk up some kind of mindless drone DPS class for her to consider changing to.

I would love to hear some tank tips for ps3 players. For instance, we try to turn off NPC targeting while in battle, but she continues to waste time targeting my pet.

[Vamp]

If you feel like your getting hit for a lot of damage here, make sure you use some food and even a +vit potion on the boss fights to give you a little extra buffer. I can make a big difference if you're getting hit hard and you don't have anyone to sleep one of the adds. And make it easy on yourself, don't forget to mark the targets. That alone makes everything go so much smoother.

[Zios]

It's not gear related. My 41 warrior has most of the gear obtainable from every instance, and he still takes a great pounding from trash mobs. Bosses are not a problem, however tanking 3+ trash mobs makes my healer spam like crazy at times. CC is the best option if you have it, I notice a great ease when mobs are slept and we can focus them down 1by1. So use them CC's and pop them cool downs.

[Duelle]

It's not gear related. My 41 warrior has most of the gear obtainable from every instance, and he still takes a great pounding from trash mobs. Bosses are not a problem, however tanking 3+ trash mobs makes my healer spam like crazy at times. CC is the best option if you have it, I notice a great ease when mobs are slept and we can focus them down 1by1. So use them CC's and pop them cool downs.

I'll agree that damage scaling post-30 hurts. The problem with relying on CC is that not all classes have them, nor is it common enough. With BLM and WHM being the only two jobs that can effectively CC, there's not much you can do if you don't have them in-group.

[Laymorah]

one thing that will help you out is make sure your main weapon is on level with the mobs in the place. I walked into sunken temple and couldnt hold any aggro i felt like a joke. me weapon was just a couple levels under. Switched to a lvl 35 dagger that dropped and problem instantley solved with no adjusting to rotation. Flash for instance is based of weapon damge so a lower lvl weapon makes is weaker when your party is using on level weapons to do their damage.

as for taking damage. Odds are you had a scholar healer. i take WAY more of a beating when a scholar is healing. at this point in their lvl curve they arent the strongest single target healer. they can do it... you will just be around half health alot more

[Chezwick]

Thanks for the advice guys.

Threat is a non issue, I keep aggro pretty well. The issue is me getting hit like a mack truck. Well, guess its time to stop face rolling and and actually play smart .... damn

[Insidious]

Huh, odd. Every healer I have been with in dungeons in that range (that we finished) has told me I am pretty easy to heal and am able to take a beating. I honestly haven't noticed anything different, tho I do cycle my cool downs liberally on trash mobs as they tend to hit a lot harder than bosses (if you avoid mechanics). I will say this, I hate Sunken Temple with a fiery passion and outright refuse to go back there. I leveled myself as fast as possible to 38 to get to the storyline dungeon and avoid ST. Every duty finder group I had was terrible. DPS who would tunnel the boss, ignore bees, and ignore doom. I am sure with competent players it would have been fun, but with those groups? Forget it, never again. Honestly, if groups are this bad the rest of the way I may just skip duty finder entirely and only dungeon when I have to.