Fates

[Ryios]

Leveling 30 to 50 in 2 nights is ridiculous, and that's basically what my Entire LS is doing. They get in a Fate Party at level 35 and when I log off at the end of the night their 40+ and when I see them the next day their 48 questing out the rest of 50...

IMO dungeons should be the best experience bar none, or people will stop running them once they get past the story line requirement to run it. In fact I reckon the story line requirements to run them are the only reason people are not experiencing 2hour+ que times to run one.

I've already seen that braybonx longstep is showing que times over 2 hours for healers even.

People don't really need the gear either. They run fates and get so many flame seals (or w/e seals if your not with the immortal flames) and they go to their quarter master and rank up to Sergeant/Captain and buy the gear with the set bonus which is pretty good gear.

So IMO, yeah they need nerfed. Fate EXP is crazy. I walk in all the time and smack 2 mobs and get full credit for 8,000+. Up to as much as 20,000+.... 33 to 34 I knocked out near costa del sole in less than 30 minutes doing 5 quests, 4 leves, and every fate I ran into in the process. Cancer even... which had so many people he was zerged down in like 3 minutes.

[Ryios]

As to boss fates. I fought some pugil in Upper Los Noscea last night. I was the only one around and no one in sight. So I engaged it just for a good laugh. To my suprise I was able to solo it to 20% hp... But I failed because I couldn't kill it fast enough and ran out of time. But still got 6,000 exp for trying. He would cast screw driver over and over again and I would just get out of the way and pop my hp drain and +healing buffs and stay over 1000k hp the entire encounter.

Wasn't challenging at all.

[Onnslaught]

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I agree with this Ryios guy. I saw 50's on my server the day I bought the game (the first day it came out) with artifact gear already. People are just grinding fates and it completely destroys all other forms of gaining XP. I have no problem with fates being a good option for leveling, but to be SO far ahead of everything else in terms of not only XP but seals is too much. They also are the best way to level up your FC which is a big deal for some people as well.

I don't want to see everything else be buffed in XP to catch up with FATE's because hitting max level in like 3-4 days is too fast IMO. Dungeons should be the best way to get XP, or at least comparable to the best way to get XP (since DD's have such long queues). I am of the opinion that FATE XP needs to be nerfed because it is way too unbalanced in terms of how fast people can level grinding them.

[Mamba]

I agree with this Ryios guy.I saw 50's on my server the day I bought the game (the first day it came out) with artifact gear already. People are just grinding fates and it completely destroys all other forms of gaining XP. I have no problem with fates being a good option for leveling, but to be SO far ahead of everything else in terms of not only XP but seals is too much. They also are the best way to level up your FC which is a big deal for some people as well.

I don't want to see everything else be buffed in XP to catch up with FATE's because hitting max level in like 3-4 days is too fast IMO. Dungeons should be the best way to get XP, or at least comparable to the best way to get XP (since DD's have such long queues).I am of the opinion that FATE XP needs to be nerfed because it is way too unbalanced in terms of how fast people can level grinding them.

I agree with everything you say.
Fates should be fun side activity, not the main way to get exp.