FATEs are killing Dungeons and team play

[Deathgasm]

I do agree that dungeons should give more XP

Agree with who?
No way to increase xp for dungeons.
Change what is bad, don't change what is good.

If you touch the xp in dungeons, then we'll level too fast, not enough money for repair and the stuff not on par to face the next step in difficulty. All is absolutely linked, builded like a castle of cards,so please peeps stop talking about augmenting xp in dungeons and other things, it will break the whole game, simply as that.
If you level too fast, you'll out damage areas, hence less fun because of less challenge.

Despite Yoshida said, that was a terrible mistake and that declaration will have much more impact than he was thinking at the moment he has done it and even now, he didn't like leveling phase in a game, there is still a bunch of people like me, who loves the leveling, the way, much more than the end game. Most of us are long term PvE and PvP HL players who have nothing to prove anymore to anyone and we assume the fact that we are loving the leveling phase.

[Darji]

Agree with who?
No way to increase xp for dungeons.
Change what is bad, don't change what is good.

Give EXP bonuses how they are doing in terms of time or maybe death. Or even give everyone for a very good time and no death some purple Item. And also I disagree that this will make leving much faster. Right now you can get to level 50 in a day if all you do is extreme fate hunting. I did the last 3 levels in 3 hours through fates because I had no quests left....

[Deathgasm]

For the love of the licence, FF ans its lore, the hard work Squee has done, I really wanted to give my money and give it a go.

In fact I realize I'm on the wrong game since beta 3.

I love RP, but there's no RP server.
I love leveling phase, but Yoshida hates it.
I love PvE difficulty, but people want a nerf of it, in dungeons and class quests.
I love to work to get something, but people want all without any efforts.

So boost XP and rewards for all, nerf difficulty, put an option to pass 50 on all classes straight away, and..

Bon appétit and do not forget to pull the flush.

[Darlantan]

For the love of the licence, FF ans its lore, the hard work Squee has done, I really wanted to give my money and give it a go.

In fact I realize I'm on the wrong game since beta 3.

I love RP, but there's no RP server.
I love leveling phase, but Yoshida hates it.
I love PvE difficulty, but people want a nerf of it, in dungeons and class quests.
I love to work to get something, but people want all without any efforts.

So boost XP and rewards for all, nerf difficulty, put an option to pass 50 on all classes straight away, and..

Bon appétit and do not forget to pull the flush.

Lol! Good post.

[Sibarian_Aries]

The best solution in my opinion to stuff like this is to take fates into a daily diminishing return system. Though maybe a complex one. For instance, if you did fate A three times, fate B 7 times and fate C once while you don't want to touch fate D... Fate A could give you 85% exp, fate B would give you 65% exp and fate C would give you 95% exp and you would get 100% exp from fate D. What this would do is make harder or less rewarding fates more appealing, and at the same time it would cool down the zerg rushing.

However I don't think that the FATES are killing the game. DPS do Queue up for Dungeons, trust me. I'm DPS... Except there are too many DPS or not enough Healers or Tanks in the Queue because it takes 50 minutes to get into a single Dungeon and 30 if I am lucky and these are 'popular' ones [story ones]. So, I wonder why people resort to fate grinding instead of Dungeons.

[Rokuu]

If they just nerfed them or limited them then it'd be fine. I grind fates sometimes, but for the most part I advance through the story and/or do dungeons frequently. The ridiculous zerg does get insanely annoying. Not to mention the 45 minute-1 hour wait one needs to endure with the df makes it even more frustrating.

You also get players who don't even know how to play their classes because all they do is grind fates. I used the df for a dungeon the other day and got a tank who thought all he had to do was charge in. He had no idea how to build hate. All he did was mindlessly charge in and, well, that ended quite badly.

Either nerf them or limit how many fates pop a day.

[Paradim]

Let people play how they want to play, FATES are fun for some of us and don't mind over gearing certain dungeons. I'm still 35 or 36, I do both along with story. If the people you get in queue are bad is because they are not because of FATES. I do see lots of tanks not wanting to CC stuff that annoys me and I'm DD it also annoys my wife who's WHM and the tank thinks he or she is doing the group a favor by trying to go faster. Bad players will be bad player's. I'm also like many of you taking the time to learn the story yet FATES give me something else to do while we quest and wait in queue.

Bay is the only pain in the ass dungeon for most players so far it seems, I have yet to see the others but just let players choose how they want to level whether it makes them bad or not. Point being if you think fates are boring find another way to play dungeons or get friends like yourself.