To the people who are logged in overnight

[RaidenTaichou]

Yeah but you are also stupid because you don't have 2+000 people on any server afk on any other MMO for days at a time so shut your stupid face up.

Whoaaaaaa put down the muscle milk bro!

[J-Gnome]

Next time you quote someone, be sure to include the whole thing. Especially when you call out someone for an opinion, which is clearly stated in the post you copied...which means you left it out intentionally...lol

Nope. I left it out because I am limited to a 1000-character response in my posts. And so as to meet the limit, I left that particular part out for two reasons:

1) It was a personal attack on my character (and not the argument I raised).

2) You added that part in as an edit to your original post, which caused me to deem it least relevant.

[koolya749_20400]

You should all live in Scotland like me! When I get up you're all in bed! XD

Ha! I'd still stay logged in though. o.o

[God_made_me_do_it]

The issue is of course primarily with SE, although it's amusing how people playing an MMO - a game based almost entirely on communities, the type of game where social skills will supposedly get you furthest - have yet to grasp the fundamentals of good manners or altrusim. I don't know any of you guys personally, but as soon as I heard there were server problems my first thought was "better log off when I take a break so other people can play".

It's not the sole cause, and not even the primary cause of server issues, we know that, but why would you knowingly add to them? In a way it says something far worse to new players or converts to the game than "SE have a few tech issues they need to sort out", it says "the community isn't very helpful" - and that's not something that can be fixed by buying more servers. That starts with you.

[Crica]

the fundamentals of ... altrusim

social skills will supposedly get you furthest

altruism does not exist - everyone does things because they get something out of it, whether that be a "feel good" feeling, or something tangible. Even ppl like you, who log out, are only doing it so you can "feel good" about yourself...

im not logging out to ensure i can play the game instead of play the login screen, something more tangible then "feeling good" about myself

and no, i do not have a lack of "community" because i dont log out, my FC and LS mates are not upset about it at all and they all do the same thing so we can all play together

[God_made_me_do_it]

altruism does not exist - everyone does things for themselves, whether it be because they get something out of it, whether that be a "feel good" feeling, or something tangible. Even ppl like you, who log out, are only doing it so you can "feel good" about yourself... =P

Actually, you're oversimplifying that one - I try to be nice because I feel that being considerate of the game's community as a general attitude improves that game's community, in however small a way, then that in turn improves my experience of the game. Also you're defining the word "altruism" as an absolute, you're referring to "pure altruism" which is an ideal and a bit out of context in this case.

[Crica]

Actually, you're oversimplifying that one - I try to be nice because I feel that being considerate of the game's community as a general attitude improves that game's community, in however small a way, then that in turn improves my experience of the game. Also you're defining the word "altruism" as an absolute, you're referring to "pure altruism" which is an ideal and a bit out of context in this case.

like i said, everyone does things in order to get something out of it for themselves, and you are trying to "improve" your game experience by logging out...

my game experience is fine when i dont log out as is the game experience of everyone i play the game with, so i dont have your reason to log out, sorry

but i DO have a reason to stay logged in - so i can play with everyone else in my LS and FC instead of play the login screen

[Ceol]

It still tickles me you all think that the handful of people who are AFK are the reason you can't log in during peak region hours. It never occurred to you that maybe it's all of the active players spamming the login server, huh?

Coming from someone who doesn't AFK for more than an hour or two, I hope SE doesn't implement this. It wouldn't fix anything. You all would be back here the very next day complaining about not being able to log in.

[Stebs]

You guys are making it out to be like people who don't log out are what's wrong with the world. We aren't that bad guys, we just like to play the game instead of sit at the login screen. If I knew everyone had the same "I'm a good guy and going to log out" attitude then I would too, but fact of the matter is that if you don't just go afk then you are losing.

Sucks that we have that kind of mentality but until there is some great awakening where we all decide not to be d*cks to each other then this is going to keep going.

[Stebs]

It still tickles me you all think that the handful of people who are AFK are the reason you can't log in during peak region hours. It never occurred to you that maybe it's all of the active players spamming the login server, huh?

Coming from someone who doesn't AFK for more than an hour or two, I hope SE doesn't implement this. It wouldn't fix anything. You all would be back here the very next day complaining about not being able to log in.

I afk, but only because I can.
Why would they not add it? It's pretty much the norm with all MMOs.