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  1. #91
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    What do i think of the point allotment system? Why do I only rank DoW jobs? becauselolreset

    This game was boasting ease of change from class to class, but this system is even more restrictive than it was in 11. thank god fishing is so easy in this game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honz View Post
    What do i think of the point allotment system? Why do I only rank DoW jobs? becauselolreset

    This game was boasting ease of change from class to class, but this system is even more restrictive than it was in 11. thank god fishing is so easy in this game!
    This is because you want to be specialized at everything, If you were willing to be decent at everything, you would be. The higher your str is, the less effective it is. Truth if you went 90 90 90 60 60 60, you probably wouldnt lose much dmg, and you could still do good damage on mage jobs. by using your traits you could swing that to 100 100 100 50 50 50 when go war and 80 80 80 70 70 70 when you go magic, which is probably more than adequate to be effective.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    . . . .which is probably more than adequate to be effective.
    But not as adequate as if you had actually allocated stats properly and not wasted points in INT on a melee or points in STR and DEX on a mage.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    But not as adequate as if you had actually allocated stats properly and not wasted points in INT on a melee or points in STR and DEX on a mage.
    min max theory, they didnt want one charachter to be the best at everything. You want to be the best at everything. People are mad because they cant be the best at everything, and they are mad because the system doesnt let them be as much better than others than they want to be with all those stat points.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    min max theory, they didnt want one charachter to be the best at everything. You want to be the best at everything. People are mad because they cant be the best at everything, and they are mad because the system doesnt let them be as much better than others than they want to be with all those stat points.
    No, the system lets us be the best we can be. The problem that we are annoyed with, is that in order to do so I need to wait anywhere from 10-30 hours in between class changes.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...d-Mage-Classes
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    No, the system lets us be the best we can be. The problem that we are annoyed with, is that in order to do so I need to wait anywhere from 10-30 hours in between class changes.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...d-Mage-Classes
    that time wait is so that you dont go from being the best glad to the best thaum instantly, they may give up on that concept, but really its not so bad, people say they want to be unique, but ehhhh i doubt it
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    that time wait is so that you dont go from being the best glad to the best thaum instantly, they may give up on that concept, but really its not so bad, people say they want to be unique, but ehhhh i doubt it
    There isn't any good reason why I should have to wait. There are many good reasons why I shouldn't have to wait.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    There isn't any good reason why I should have to wait. There are many good reasons why I shouldn't have to wait.
    The idea was that you as Rentahamster have a certain abilities that you have trained over time, if you want to change your whole life, you can, but it will take some time. Your not meant to go from the super leet RentaGlad to super Leet RentaConjurer instantly, Like oh we got this dungeon, you go as a lancer but when we get to the boss you switch to a conjurer. You can do it, but your not better than a person who has dedicated his life to conjury. The advantage the middle guy has is that he can actually do this type of thing.
    Like i said, it may dissappear but it was a completely logical move, that is quite often found in games weather it be race selection, specialization, or a merit point like system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    The idea was that you as Rentahamster have a certain abilities that you have trained over time, if you want to change your whole life, you can, but it will take some time. Your not meant to go from the super leet RentaGlad to super Leet RentaConjurer instantly, Like oh we got this dungeon, you go as a lancer but when we get to the boss you switch to a conjurer. You can do it, but your not better than a person who has dedicated his life to conjury. The advantage the middle guy has is that he can actually do this type of thing.
    Like i said, it may dissappear but it was a completely logical move, that is quite often found in games weather it be race selection, specialization, or a merit point like system.
    What makes you think that this is intended by design, and not just bad gamplay implementation by the developers? What evidence is there that the developers intentionally want to make my ability to play both mage and melee and crafter and food eater so hard?
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  10. #100
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    Having a point allotment set for each seperate class lets ever do what they want ,i dont belive this would give much room for complaints ,then everyone can do exactly what they want to do, everyone who wants to play they're jobs in a traditional manor can, everyone who wants to be a sort of melee mage hybrig can. It might not make sense for someone in a real sense to be able to have that sort of pyhsical being able to switch between different strengths, but i cant say this enhances my playtime and at the end of the day , its still a game so anythng restricting certain elements for the sake of realism isnt all too exciting, altho i dont think thats what they were aiming for specifically.

    Under the current system though the differences in stats is negligible unless your considering for your hp or mp being the only real noticable difference. Still something that has people not happy about so its clearly a system that needs to be adjusted.
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    Last edited by ManekiKanji; 04-30-2011 at 08:34 PM.

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