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    Dractus Towers
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    Heals for Scholors need a buff

    I have been Playing my 50 Scholor in many dungeons now and we need a huge heal buff. Our single target heals for 400 Potency on one and 300 on the other where a WHM can heal for 550 and our AoE heal has a 150 Potency and a WHM can heal for 200. A WHM can out heal us single target and AoE with no problem. You may say our bubles make up for it but our bubbles are so weak becouse its bases of our potency and WHM get regens.
    Please buff Scholor Heals is some way to make us competitive with WHMS
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    Sadestra Papillion
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    You do realize that you have a pet that is also healing for 300 do you?
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    Alenghil Strife
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    And that your heals also apply a shield on the target for the same amount of damage healed?
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    Laiyenu Rae
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I disagree, SCH heals don't need a buff.

    Pet AI needs a buff though. :3c
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    Scerick Aetherstorm
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dractus View Post
    **SNIP**
    Physik:= 400 Value
    Same as WHM
    With Pet: 300 more value than WHM

    Adloquium: = 300 Value base with a 300 value shield. If the heal crits the shield is doubled.
    Total crit heal value = 1350
    Total non crit heal value = 600

    Non Crit: 50 less value than WHM Cure II
    Crit: 375 more value than WHM Cure II
    With Pet: 250 more value than WHM non crit, 675 more value than WHM crit.


    Succor: 150 Value base with a 150 value shield.
    Total crit heal value = 450
    Total non crit heal value = 300

    Non Crit: Same as WHM Medica
    Crit: Same as WHM Medica
    With Pet: An additional 100 value regen.

    Scholar's Eos: (Who has no MP, and thus can't run out of MP, and can heal while YOU are moving)

    300 value heal
    100 value party wide regen
    30% Increased healing done

    20% Less magic damage
    Critical heals = Increased spell speed for Scholar

    Scholar Utility:
    AoE Slow
    AoE 10% reduced damage taken
    10 Seconds of 15% reduced str/int/dex/mnd
    10% reduced damage single target (Eye for an Eye)
    Blind

    Combine this with lower MP costs + Aetherflow + our gear has more crit on it than WHM. Bubbles also let us effectively over-heal and pre-shield damage, which is incredibly valuable and every WHM wishes they could do.

    Where is the needed buff? The only thing we "need" is a bubble-less AOE heal (only for QoL) and better Pet AI.

    But hey I'll take a buff.

    Edit: Updated math for a tooltip reading error on my part.
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    Last edited by Scerick; 09-01-2013 at 07:35 AM.

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    Laiyenu Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scerick View Post
    Succor: 150 Value base with a 150 value shield. If the heal crits the shield is doubled.
    Total crit heal value = 675
    Total non crit heal value = 300
    Is this stated somewhere or has been tested? I only ask due to it not being stated on the tooltip (only the Aldoquium one states it being x2 the shield).
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    Lol i love none 50 arcs talking like they know anything.
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laiyenu View Post
    I disagree, SCH heals don't need a buff.

    Pet AI needs a buff though. :3c
    Not really. You can directly control your pet. Stick Embrace into your hotbar and there, done. It's a more active healing class than WHM that way.

    However, I will say that on anything with ground, environment, and unavoidable damage then you're in trouble. The first boss in Qarn, and the first boss is Aurum, for example, are almost guaranteed to kill off your Fairy. Without your Fairy, you're just a gimp WHM.
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    Scerick Aetherstorm
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laiyenu View Post
    Is this stated somewhere or has been tested? I only ask due to it not being stated on the tooltip (only the Aldoquium one states it being x2 the shield).
    Fixed, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Not really. You can directly control your pet. Stick Embrace into your hotbar and there, done. It's a more active healing class than WHM that way.

    However, I will say that on anything with ground, environment, and unavoidable damage then you're in trouble. The first boss in Qarn, and the first boss is Aurum, for example, are almost guaranteed to kill off your Fairy. Without your Fairy, you're just a gimp WHM.
    Heal your fairy, she takes 80% reduced AOE damage. It's extremely easy to keep her up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dractus View Post
    Lol i love none 50 arcs talking like they know anything.
    Dispute my math please? You literally just started a thread with zero evidence to back your claim that Scholar healing is not competitive with WHM's. Why don't you pop into the WHM threads and take a look at how envious they are of our ability to heal.
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    Last edited by Scerick; 09-01-2013 at 03:08 AM.

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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scerick View Post
    Heal your fairy, she takes 80% reduced AOE damage. It's extremely easy to keep her up.
    Have you done Qarn or Aurum?
    Because Qarn is Doom and Aurum is unavoidable 200+ HP per tick poison that is incurable without means of using the in-battle fruits.

    Your Sustain isn't going to keep her alive long, sorry, especially when the poison keeps getting reapplied.
    Now, they could fix Aurum by patching in a fix that when you eat the Fruit the pet gets the fix. However for now, no way to keep her alive.
    Doom is just a matter of getting your pet to follow you in time.
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