History repeats itself: Time for the Great Archer Nerf of 2011

[Xatsh]

I like all the people saying archers pay for their dmg so it is justified, that is exactly what everyone said right before SE dropped archers dmg in XI by about 30%.

Archers are massive spike dmg atm, No other class can throw out thousands of dmg in about 10secs of a fight.

While it is fun, I do think archer needs to be nerfed slightly. They just get tp too fast and since the attack buffs stack with all the multishot abilities they can not only get 800-1000tp in 1 shot they hit for 400-600dmg doing it as well.

I think they should be the highest DD still, but it is just a little overboard in my opinion atm.

[Aion]

Oh absolutely. The second tough content hits this game, Marauders lancers and pugilists are toast if that enemy AoE's. Which it will, because to Square Enix, AoE=more hard. They'll be warming the bench in a heartbeat. It'll be one glad, 4 archers and 3 thaumaturges. Plus or minus three archers or thaumaturges of course. That's the solution to every endgame event that Square Enix can release. Thaumaturges and archers with a token gladiator. Unless they're sp'ing, then **** that gladiator. He can go grind coblyns solo, you only have 8 slots, and all 8 are needed for someone USEFUL.

Useful is what the rangers used to say. They need that spot to go to someone useful. As in not monks, dragoons, thieves, paladins, white mages, or dark knights. Those kinds of people don't deserve bards. Ninja....alright the ninja can come if he's good.

Who needs a healer? Nobody. The archers all have Cure III and cure for 550. That's more than enough. Don't have AoE cures? Doesn't matter, that was the whole point in telling the meleers to get lost, remember? Lolmeleers...Dink* Sorry healers, you're just...not...useful.

How many of you all are just dying to get 4 archers, 3 thaumaturges, and a gladiator and just eat any endgame content SE can throw at you. I know exactly what you have in mind. Here's your future conversation:

Buff up!
Everyone knock up their arrows for multishot. Thaumaturges start with chainspell shadowsear shadowsear buff em up buff em up. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 50% OF ITS LIFE LOLOLOL PWNED! Archers gogogogo DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 30% OF ITS LIFE XDDDDDD gogogo weaponskills weaponskills spam it spam it WIN!

History, reapeating itself, as we speak. And no one even sees it coming.

GOOD JOB GUYS we're AWESOME! Took my pug friend SEVEN tries to win that fight with a bunch of scrubs!

Video please

[Peregrine]

There are 2 DD's....

1 of them isn't paying any gil and doing dmg
1 of them is paying 200k gil and doing dmg

The one paying 200k gil and doing dmg has a legitimate arguement to have a higher DPS.

No, it doesn't lol... You're not up in the mob's face taking AoE risk. You're sitting back like a healer out of harm's way.
Pay for that protection. With less damage. That you pay for arrows...welll. that's your down payment.

[Peregrine]

Video please

If they make the raid content coming up tough, there will be no lack of videos for you to browse and see how instantly imbred endgame becomes the minute it gets tough in a game where everyone has already flocked to imbalance. 6 archers. 5 thaumaturges. 8 thaumaturges. Three thaumaturges beating easily what a balanced team of 8 struggles on. Archers and thaumaturges telling pugs to sit in the corner, charging them 600k to win the fight for him.

Just sit there and don't do anything. we do this all the time for gim...players.

[Aion]

No, it doesn't lol... You're not up in the mob's face taking AoE risk. You're sitting back like a healer out of harm's way.
Pay for that protection. With less damage. That you pay for arrows...welll. that's your down payment.

What?? are you drunk or something? arent we talking on COOPERATING in a PARTY?

[Aion]

If they make the raid content coming up tough, there will be no lack of videos for you to browse and see how instantly imbred endgame becomes the minute it gets tough in a game where everyone has already flocked to imbalance. 6 archers. 5 thaumaturges. 8 thaumaturges. Three thaumaturges beating easily what a balanced team of 8 struggles on. Archers and thaumaturges telling pugs to sit in the corner, charging them 600k to win the fight for him.

Just sit there and don't do anything. we do this all the time for gim...players.

Great Buffalo are in game. Video please.

[Peregrine]

I like all the people saying archers pay for their dmg so it is justified, that is exactly what everyone said right before SE dropped archers dmg in XI by about 30%.

None of them remember that. But they'll sure as heck remember this.
Thing about history lessons, if you don't learn from them the first time, you'll still learn eventually.

[Joe_Cool]

How many of you all are just dying to get 4 archers, 3 thaumaturges, and a gladiator and just eat any endgame content SE can throw at you. I know exactly what you have in mind. Here's your future conversation:

Buff up!
Everyone knock up their arrows for multishot. Thaumaturges start with chainspell shadowsear shadowsear buff em up buff em up. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 50% OF ITS LIFE LOLOLOL PWNED! Archers gogogogo DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN 30% OF ITS LIFE XDDDDDD gogogo weaponskills weaponskills spam it spam it WIN!

LOLOLOL I am liking this post just for this!

[Aion]

is there any chainspell in this game? Im curious

[Peregrine]

Uhh... hate to break it to you, but multishot CAN miss. What a retard >_<
And fyi, this isn't XI.

Make it miss like eveyrone else's abilities get alternate universe nerfs. Marauders get some **** ability that raises crit rate...and lowers TP gain. You attack three times at once and...no that's it you attack three damn times at once. Oh and single-action buffs work on every hit. GEE. Great!

Everyone else has abilities that raise quality gain but advance synthesis but also increase difficulty. AKA NEARLY USELESS. Archers though...no...world needs more archers, right? Here have the game's dispel. That's really what overpowered ranged attackers need, right? Enemy buffs are SO annoying when you're trying to spam arrows on it!

So this whould be multishot description, word for word, if it were a lancer ability:

Triple attack: Store up stamina, attacking three times less accurately. 30% less accurate, really. Also, they're not full hits they're more like 70% of a hit. Like quick nock, only with a lance and it's not as many hits. What we're saying is we think it's pretty funny I'm sure if you could see your face right now you'd be laughing too. Oh and it binds you for a lil bit. And you can only use it after a mage parries an attack. If you're behind the mage after the attack. Which is kindof funny now that you're bound there.