History repeats itself: Time for the Great Archer Nerf of 2011

[Peregrine]

You are just so butt hurt about archers for some reason and it's really sad. Do you know that hit for hit, Lancer and Marauder hit harder than an Archer? You must have a very messed up party setup in this game if you have all archers and 2 thaums.

Hit for hit lol...then archer uses multishot and does 3,000 damage with one weaponskill.

The nerf is required. If you think otherwise, well...just watch history repeat itself. Your little monk will have a hard time finding a party when all the archers are sp grinding on mobs 15 ranks over your head, telling you to stop being a MP sponge and get out of AoE range.

Or ya know...go level archer if you want to be invited.

[Isaaru]

You are just so butt hurt about archers for some reason and it's really sad. Do you know that hit for hit, Lancer and Marauder hit harder than an Archer? You must have a very messed up party setup in this game if you have all archers and 2 thaums.

This^

Also wait until SE releases their Job System before we establish if anything should be nerfed.

[Corrderio]

Archer is just actually well designed and unique, unlike the other DD's @_@

My Lancer would like to have a word with you :P

[Isaaru]

Hit for hit lol...then archer uses multishot and does 3,000 damage with one weaponskill.

You don't know how Archer works do you...

[Peregrine]

Someone sounds bitter. Don't like the size of your wand compared to the other guy's bow?

I don't think anyone will disagree that things need more balancing, but when keeping party dynamics in mind, playing the Archer job takes a lot more than pumping out big damage. It's called hate management, and if the archer doesn't have to keep his enmity in check, then he's just a glorified pea shooter.

Know what balances hate when there are archers in the party?
More archers.

I'm not speaking hypothetically here. That's what you all did in FFXI. Am I the only one who played the game when you all took to rangering ranger on your rangers?

Nerf archer.

[JayvirDeforte]

Hit for hit lol...then archer uses multishot and does 3,000 damage with one weaponskill.

Except that you NEVER do 3000 damage except anything other than a marmot. Even so, multishot is THREE hits. Even multishot isn't the best route to go because it takes up so much stamina. It's only a good opening attack. Maybe you should play the class beyond 30 before you claim to know all.

And I have yet to catch up to a Lancer in damage when it comes to damage in a single strike. I've seen Doomspike II do absurd damage under the right circumstances

[AlexiaKidd]

Well when i fight crabs I switch to my MRD as it does a lot better DMG than my ARC on those, just depends what your fighting really.

Like I said though if they nerf Archer I want free arrows as I am not paying out gill for every shot to do less DMG than anyone else.

[Peregrine]

You don't know how Archer works do you...

I just watched an archer do 3k damage in one weaponskill on youtube. I have a screenshot of an archer doing 3k damage on dodore. Do YOU know how archer works? cause...everyone else flocking to it does.

[Peregrine]

Well when i fight crabs I switch to my MRD as it does a lot better DMG than my ARC on those, just depends what your fighting really.

Like I said though if they nerf Archer I want free arrows as I am not paying out gill for every shot to do less DMG than anyone else.

Bzzzt. We already discovered that "I pay gil" is not an acceptable reason to keep your overpowered status. Rangers paid way more gil than you ever will, and it was still broken and imbalanced.

Again, you all...we have already learned the lessons you all want to learn over again. We have already proven all your reasoning as to why archer should stay like it is WRONG because we've already done this once.

Nerf them, or watch them take over every portion of the game.

[Ayerc]

Know what balances hate when there are archers in the party?
More archers.

I'm not speaking hypothetically here. That's what you all did in FFXI. Am I the only one who played the game when you all took to rangering ranger on your rangers?

Nerf archer.

You're not the only one, I was there too. I don't understand why you're still holding onto a grudge from 2003 though. Archers are much more balanced in XIV than they were in 2003 XI. You make it sounds as if everyone will only play Archer from here on out. It's not going to happen. It didn't happen in XI, and it won't happen now.

Yes, a lot of people did play Ranger in XI when that was the fad, but it wasn't everyone. I got plenty of parties with all that happening and still wasn't a ranger.