:::Petition:: Removal of 1017 and Reinstatement of Global Queue System

[Enveigle]

/signed

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[genjav]

/signed..................... 4 hours trying to log in today >

[Ubermann]

.../signed

[DemonForest]

/signed

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This totally this!

I'd rather wait in a queue for 3 hrs than bang my head against 1017 for 30 min.

[Thwing]

/signed
SE, I'm not being a complainer here, I just want to play the game I'm paying for

[MBaltos]

Not signed. As stated by Yoshi san they are working to increase the server stability by upgrading them. He mentions that by taking away 1017 it will make the servers crash and then nobody will be able to play.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...72#post1111872

Thundaja,

I agree in part with what you said, read the full text as well, but the solution taking this a bit too much to be released, it is not a matter to be possible or not to do this time, it is necessary for them to do as soon as possible.

I sympathize greatly with Yoshida, however it is undeniable that it was a tremendous mistake them, and for sure this will cause a bigger problem than any other, the bad reputation that the game will have.

Out problems like that the game itself is already perfect, so much so that I personally will continue to play, however most likely try to migrate to a server emptier, as soon as possible.

Do not bother with that angry talk, everyone is frustrated with these problems ...

[AthelReiki]

Also, To be more direct. Basically what your trying to tell me, is a Multi-Billion Dollar company like SE (1.7b networth 2012) Has servers in place for a multi-million dollar game, that can not handle 250k simaltaneous login prefix's at the same time? Im a network engineer for myself, and the very unlikely fact that they are running servers that must be either ancient, or horribly undergeared in a MMO standpoint, are the very ideas they had invested in for a game with the drawing this has had. Even server stations built 10 years ago have the capabliilty of running MULTIPLE instances of several multiple thousands of instances on a login server system. The very statement that "having a larger login queue will cause server instability" just tells me that they need a serious sitdown with thier Hosting company they go through wether or not its through inhouse or contracted. There are countless games out there who have a much larger stream rate off a much smaller network and far more outdated gear than that of wich SE has their hands on and are able to implement queue and login systems that can safely and simaltaneously induce more than 40k players with little to no loss on the server bandwith. Its a very simple process, Just let me make it very clear that yoshida specified "Possibility of stability issues" and he did NOT come out and say "it will crash the game" specifically, He just simply stated he did not want to take a single drop of chance to affect the currently playing individuals.

You gotta realize that The way the game is set up they have a duty finder system composed of 2 servers, roughly 50-55 game servers, a update/patch server, a client server, and a login server, all designed to run in tandem and they are also run off of several networks. Wether or not they are RF/Fiber networks or OC2 tandem networks its still a very very large amount of bandwith at their hands. After all, the general availablility for internet speeds has skyrocketed up in the last 5 years from standardized 1mbps to now a commercial 1gig up/1gig down to residential alone. On bandwith even hat a quarter of that speed is enough to provide 95% of our entire gaming population a constant login stream including playtime. So it is highly highly unlikely that the issue resides in their hardware and bandwith congestion. IF it was the case then they are in severe need of major overhauls to their entire system, not just a basic upgrade to add more servers. were talking 380k member simaltaneous connections, Look at GW, WoW, LoTRO, League, hell even smite. None of them have the finances or equipement that SE has, yet they never had an issue with login like this, Something has been made horribly inadequet or something else is a underlying problem that they arent discussing.

lol - tl;dr

but thank god you're a network engineer. As if the other 400 arrogant "network engineers, software developers, data center" people coming here saying "exactly whats wrong and how it needs to be fixed." - if thats the case, seriously - go to SE and tell them exactly what they're doing wrong.

You honestly think they have one of their network admins reading the forums looking to see if "someone knows how to fix the problem".

"oh. thats it! All we have to do is just open the queue back up! Jesus fuck! We didn't think of that! That'll help things tremendously!"

If you recall - last saturday they did open the queue and what happened? Server crashed.

So give the fact that the queue server was part of the problems of the server crashing, wouldn't it be safe to assume that the network admins are limiting that just to keep the servers up and running?

Seriously, I get people are upset and want to play the game "on their servers". But coming here and demanding that they open the queues and just get rid of 1017 without thinking of what would happen as a result. And to down play SE as ignorant from a networking standpoint (IE: just server capping for the lulz) is insane. Yes, SE should have had better foresight on the onslaught of the hoard and built better servers up front. But to claim that you know whats best for them right now and assume that they're just not doing it because of <whatever reasons> is arrogant, selfish, and downright ignorant.

Have fun ^^

[Mikedizzy]

I think the global que is in effect it is just that it seems to be over the limit that they allow. I think when it is over the limit that is when we get the 1017. No proof of this but just what it seems like to me. Iwas just getting 1017 and then finally got queued with 441 people. and then got in no problem on the next attempt.

[Riavan]

lol - tl;dr

but thank god you're a network engineer. As if the other 400 arrogant "network engineers, software developers, data center" people coming here saying "exactly whats wrong and how it needs to be fixed." - if thats the case, seriously - go to SE and tell them exactly what they're doing wrong.

You honestly think they have one of their network admins reading the forums looking to see if "someone knows how to fix the problem".

"oh. thats it! All we have to do is just open the queue back up! Jesus fuck! We didn't think of that! That'll help things tremendously!"

If you recall - last saturday they did open the queue and what happened? Server crashed.

So give the fact that the queue server was part of the problems of the server crashing, wouldn't it be safe to assume that the network admins are limiting that just to keep the servers up and running?

Seriously, I get people are upset and want to play the game "on their servers". But coming here and demanding that they open the queues and just get rid of 1017 without thinking of what would happen as a result. And to down play SE as ignorant from a networking standpoint (IE: just server capping for the lulz) is insane. Yes, SE should have had better foresight on the onslaught of the hoard and built better servers up front. But to claim that you know whats best for them right now and assume that they're just not doing it because of <whatever reasons> is arrogant, selfish, and downright ignorant.

Have fun ^^

Yeah it's arrogant, selfish and downright ignorant to wnat to play a game they paid for. Don't they appreciate that square enix will one day have the game working well enough for them to play? People say MMO launches are rocky, this is this MMO's second launch and it's lacking features EVERQUEST ONE HAD like 10+ years ago, like a functioning que system and afk kicking. To add salt the wound square enix are only interested in opening more servers at the moment so they can re-open their sales and take more people's money, helping people who have already paid is a second priority.

After how square enix has been doing for the last 5 or so years, do you really doubt that random passers by in this forum with IT and video game knowledge don't have better ideas than square enix about things?

[AthelReiki]

Yeah it's arrogant, selfish and downright ignorant to wnat to play a game they paid for.

So you cannot play then I take it? Even on a JP server? Please don't confuse "I can't play" with "I can't play on the server of my choice therefore I will bitch about it". Choices are available to you - up to you whether or not to take them. If you choose to spend "hours" trying to log in to a full server and getting mad, thats your choice. Or you could log into a JP server (I've had 0 issues, no queues, no 1017 on JP) and probably be further than your main character.