:::Petition:: Removal of 1017 and Reinstatement of Global Queue System

[Vexray]

Totally understand. I too, paid. And as I said, I'm having little to no issues signing in. Again, tonight - under 5 tries for Excalibur.

So this petition is basically saying "Please just open the gates and let everyone on... so that eventually the servers will get overwhelmed and then crash so no one can play". Isn't that a bit selfish and assholish?

in no way shape or form did i ever ask for them to "open the gates" so to speak. This petition was to promote the usage of the queue system a bit better, Just because the server cant handle the initial load on it due to the emense popularity does not mean that they cant use the login server to their advantage in a little better way. Please dont put words in my mouth like that as it makes not only myself as OP but others seem undignified and thats never been farther from the truth. We are average players just like yourself, who are also adults, just trying to get input from SE (wich by this post theyve already made statements regarding it). So we did what we needed to and got word from yoshida, wether or not it was benificial or not is ultimately up to everyones disgression.

Just read my orriginal post a little closer next time, were trying to get the queue system back in place like it used to be with a little higher capping, and so that for every 1 person that logs out 1 can log in, how on earth would that make everyone log in at the same time O_o. Atleast this way we can atleast walk away and let the queu timer go down while we do other personal life stuff eh? No more Carpal tunnel for everyone.

[MerleonHades]

Thats not how they called it, there are some hints. And i will not explain it nor will i post a direct link, that will lead their stability "solution" ad absurdum.

[Vexray]

Also, To be more direct. Basically what your trying to tell me, is a Multi-Billion Dollar company like SE (1.7b networth 2012) Has servers in place for a multi-million dollar game, that can not handle 250k simaltaneous login prefix's at the same time? Im a network engineer for myself, and the very unlikely fact that they are running servers that must be either ancient, or horribly undergeared in a MMO standpoint, are the very ideas they had invested in for a game with the drawing this has had. Even server stations built 10 years ago have the capabliilty of running MULTIPLE instances of several multiple thousands of instances on a login server system. The very statement that "having a larger login queue will cause server instability" just tells me that they need a serious sitdown with thier Hosting company they go through wether or not its through inhouse or contracted. There are countless games out there who have a much larger stream rate off a much smaller network and far more outdated gear than that of wich SE has their hands on and are able to implement queue and login systems that can safely and simaltaneously induce more than 40k players with little to no loss on the server bandwith. Its a very simple process, Just let me make it very clear that yoshida specified "Possibility of stability issues" and he did NOT come out and say "it will crash the game" specifically, He just simply stated he did not want to take a single drop of chance to affect the currently playing individuals.

You gotta realize that The way the game is set up they have a duty finder system composed of 2 servers, roughly 50-55 game servers, a update/patch server, a client server, and a login server, all designed to run in tandem and they are also run off of several networks. Wether or not they are RF/Fiber networks or OC2 tandem networks its still a very very large amount of bandwith at their hands. After all, the general availablility for internet speeds has skyrocketed up in the last 5 years from standardized 1mbps to now a commercial 1gig up/1gig down to residential alone. On bandwith even hat a quarter of that speed is enough to provide 95% of our entire gaming population a constant login stream including playtime. So it is highly highly unlikely that the issue resides in their hardware and bandwith congestion. IF it was the case then they are in severe need of major overhauls to their entire system, not just a basic upgrade to add more servers. were talking 380k member simaltaneous connections, Look at GW, WoW, LoTRO, League, hell even smite. None of them have the finances or equipement that SE has, yet they never had an issue with login like this, Something has been made horribly inadequet or something else is a underlying problem that they arent discussing.

[Riavan]

Also, To be more direct. Basically what your trying to tell me, is a Multi-Billion Dollar company like SE (1.7b networth 2012) Has servers in place for a multi-million dollar game, that can not handle 250k simaltaneous login prefix's at the same time? Im a network engineer for myself, and the very unlikely fact that they are running servers that must be either ancient, or horribly undergeared in a MMO standpoint, are the very ideas they had invested in for a game with the drawing this has had. Even server stations built 10 years ago have the capabliilty of running MULTIPLE instances of several multiple thousands of instances on a login server system. The very statement that "having a larger login queue will cause server instability" just tells me that they need a serious sitdown with thier Hosting company they go through wether or not its through inhouse or contracted. There are countless games out there who have a much larger stream rate off a much smaller network and far more outdated gear than that of wich SE has their hands on and are able to implement queue and login systems that can safely and simaltaneously induce more than 40k players with little to no loss on the server bandwith. Its a very simple process, Just let me make it very clear that yoshida specified "Possibility of stability issues" and he did NOT come out and say "it will crash the game" specifically, He just simply stated he did not want to take a single drop of chance to affect the currently playing individuals.

You gotta realize that The way the game is set up they have a duty finder system composed of 2 servers, roughly 50-55 game servers, a update/patch server, a client server, and a login server, all designed to run in tandem and they are also run off of several networks. Wether or not they are RF/Fiber networks or OC2 tandem networks its still a very very large amount of bandwith at their hands. After all, the general availablility for internet speeds has skyrocketed up in the last 5 years from standardized 1mbps to now a commercial 1gig up/1gig down to residential alone. On bandwith even hat a quarter of that speed is enough to provide 95% of our entire gaming population a constant login stream including playtime. So it is highly highly unlikely that the issue resides in their hardware and bandwith congestion. IF it was the case then they are in severe need of major overhauls to their entire system, not just a basic upgrade to add more servers. were talking 380k member simaltaneous connections, Look at GW, WoW, LoTRO, League, hell even smite. None of them have the finances or equipement that SE has, yet they never had an issue with login like this, Something has been made horribly inadequet or something else is a underlying problem that they arent discussing.

You have to take into consideration square enix's complete and utter incompetence at being up to date/standard with other major gaming companies. Do they have the money? I'm not entirely sure anymore, their game sales have been pretty abysmal compared to how much they cost to develop. I also think it's likely ff14 was redeveloped on a small tight budget because they assumed not many would buy it like the first one.

[SBilgewater]

So this is what our gameplay has been like so far:

FFMXVII: A Realm Rebroken Gameplay Footage

[fixitman]

in no way shape or form did i ever ask for them to "open the gates" so to speak. This petition was to promote the usage of the queue system a bit better, <snip>

They are already running it the best it can run, with constant adjustments. That is the only explanation for the fluctuating queue sizes, when you consider their statement that they are monitoring and adjusting 24 hours a day until the new hardware is ready. I realize that none of this was know at the time this thread was started, but it is known now. Isn't it time to just accept that this is the way it will be for the weekend, and no amount of posts are going to change that?

[darkwithless]

/signed

with so many games out there that have queues incase of overflow, why was FFXIV:arr released without an actual queue.

[Vexray]

As of the Date of the Recent post by Yoshida ill Edit this post to reiterate on what hes said so that theres no more confusion. This post is not really as much for petitioning now as more of a rant and wishlist post since most of whats needed to be fixed will be fixed in the next few days. Lets just hope that what they do in the future is a direct corelation of the events thats transpired through beta phase till now, and they re-surface their thrive for customer service and quality games. They say old dogs cant learn new tricks but SE has fooled us in the past and i only hope that bad habits die hard.

[t0nkatsu]

/signed

Customer service please. I am literally trying to give you money.

[leopardardor]

/signed

Plz fix I wanna play

Nice character name, I'm not even male but I will definitely be reporting that account!


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