Market ward Fix/ Idea

[WolfOak]

It has been mentioned much before: my vote is for a 'Teleport' option from the item search counter. I would like to see this implimentation followed by the various market wards combined into a large open marketplace.

[dantheman]

The number of wards there are is a pain but having one giant ward would pose its own issues. I like the idea of just a few large ones and the option of being teleported to the closest retainer who is selling what you have searched.

[Spuffin]

Auction House. Did that solve your problem?

[trinta]

My idea is a fix to revamp the market wards. Instead of small mog house room. I suggest a large scale open air market zone. One for each city.

Am I missing something? This is what they have now. Or do you want to go back to the times of 6,000 retainers and NPCs jammed into a single area to the point that you're taking two steps and waiting to see if more character models are going to load?

Instead of just putting a retainer out, have an actual stall that players can dress up. Obviousely keep the searches. But with the stalls have icons on or a sign. One for armor, one for weapons, one for food, one for materials, and a misc icon.

We have this. I'm not sure of all the categories for stalls, but Weapons, Armor, and Bric-a-Brac are definitely included. I think there are one or two others.

I didn't read the other responses, but I think that makes us about even, as you haven't played the game.

[Verecund]

Good idea and all, but...

If the retainer system is even kept (or not somehow opened to cross-city access on a global scale), it will only contribute to more "ghost towning" (i.e. Gridania / Black Shroud and soon to be Limsa).

It's unfortunate really, but the retainer system is just going to make things confusing for new players (who are wondering where everyone is ^.^)

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Auction House. Did that solve your problem?

right this isn't the topic for that. I personally hate auction houses. Log inti ffxu right now and start a new character. There are 0 items, or items that got 10K or higher.

But retainers can work with an Auction house. Since there will be a limit on how many items you can place. I like the idea of the wards since in ffxi you had to keep the game running to sell stuff in a personal shop. Wars are a good idea if properly designed.

And I hope you are are not skimming what I write. I do make mention of it being neater. As in premade location nor random plops as what is going on now. Retainer stall will be neatly placed not scattered in random locations. And in neat easy to walk around zones.

I personally was just stating an Idea. Or my vision when I heard market wards.

I just wish in reality they are neater and not in small dark mog house rooms. Full of random mess of npcs.

[Jedgar]

Was eq messy or neat?

I also made mention of a teleport to said retainer.

But even still isn't that a problem anyway? I know ffxi AH's had that issue.

I think no matter what there will be a competition for items. Thays how things are. I just want to see a neater set up, and a less claustrophobic zone.

Talking immersion, but a dark box with random npc standing in random spots in some cases on top of each other is immersion breaking.
Neatly set up rows of stalls in an open air zone is more immersive. In my eyes. And again adding a teleport feature will get you to that retain as the teleport is linked to the spot.

Granted EQ's Bazaar was messy, as is the Market Wards off FFXIV but they had market stalls in EQ and they were set off to the sides of the walls in the zone rooms and hallways leaving clear isles for people to walk down but even then you'd get four of five people crowded into a tent making you tab through them instead of just being able to click on the person you wanted. Also there are stalls in each of the Market Wards now for your retainer to sit in and sell your stuff. You just have to rent them out. And they are arranged on the sides of the zone so as to keep the middle clear. The reason no one uses them is that they cost or don't know they are there.

As for being magically teleported to the vendor of choice I for some reason see this as being a problem. With the amount of people using the zone being blinked all over the place is likely able to cause it to crash.

Pretty much what is faster...
running through one zone?
or going from ward one ward to another? as most ppl don't sell in the correct wards anyway (as from what i'm told) like say you go to the ward for food do a search for a meat dish turns out the cheapest retainer is selling 5 in a ward far from ya. Now you gotta run to said ward. enter it then wait for load and find your retainer. and in that time all five were baught from someone looking for a different item and saw those.

As for no one or even hardly anyone being in the correct ward is a non issue if you ask me. After all when you set up your bazaar are you selling only armor, or weapons, or woodworking mats. No you're selling all of the above plus the random crap you collected while leveling, doing leves, and such. The fact that we can only hire two retainers has made this the norm.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Hey guys lets try something new here. Instead of hating my idea, work with it, change it up. And I was more talking no middle area. It will be neat and tidy with no way to be messy as I hate messy. And I was more going instead of renting stalls, it comes with the set up and in a premade grind format much like a mog house. it will prevemt stalls /retainers to be ontop of each other. There will be enough space to walk around. And enough spots so other towns can/will be filled to prevent ghosting.
As for the teleport it goes to that retainer. and loading shouldn't be an issue since no one will be in a mass pile.

Please don't skim posts. Or you will have read that part. Posting any idea on this forum is such a pain. You guys seriously need to get a change in attitudes.

If you dislike my idea just don't post. Or add /change it. That is what we should be doing, brain storming. Not shooting down ideas just because you don't see what others do. Or skim posts and get the wrong ideas.

[trinta]

Clearly, you assume that your ideas for a game that you have never played must have value. I personally think an AH has value. Instead of hating my idea, work with it. If you don't like an AH, just don't post.

Am I doing it right?

[Jedgar]

Because someone disagrees with your idea doesn't mean they hate it. At least I don't hate your idea but nor do I agree with it. Nor do I think that any post on here or any game forums for that matter will get everyone to agree with what the OP said in their first post. Thats the reason for forums such as these. Discussion. As for your original idea yes the Market Wards are cluttered but as you suggested having stalls for people to bazaar in is something we already have. You just have to rent them and as far as I know, as I've only ever seen them used twice and not by myself personally, but your retainer is placed in the stall and a limited number of retainers can be in each stall. And these stalls are located on the sides of the zone making it so that the middle area, that is currently being used by everyone, clear. Now if these were made mandatory to bazaar I'd be all for that but they would in turn have to be free or have the cost come out of the tax that you are already charged for selling your item in the Market Wards.

But even this won't prevent "Ghost Towning" as Verecund stated as even if the Market Wards were linked everyone still ends up in Ul'Dah as it is the central location, the main storyline quest takes you there, and is not as convoluted as Gridania or Limsa to get around.

/rant