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  1. #191
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    All those "Lets play" people and (Hobby) "game critics" can still make videos and post them. They just can't make money doing so.

    There is nothing wrong with that.

    If these guys want to make money reviewing games they need to get a REAL JOB in the REAL WORLD. PERIOD.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspirit View Post
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    Just because they legally can doesn't mean it's a good business decision.

    If they had some sort of outreach program for "professional" streamers it would be mitigated somewhat, but streamers and youtube commentators are a pretty powerful free marketing/advertising tool. To throw away those opportunities entirely is silly.

    Of course it's pretty complicated, with SE wanting to control the branding of Final Fantasy very tightly as it's a very old brand that they've spent decades cultivating. But it doesn't mean it's the right business decision on SE's part.

    Also calling people who stream games pirates or calling such activity "stealing" intellectual property is intellectually dishonest. There is no "theft" in copyright infringement, if you want to think about it in a traditional manner. It's just been marketed that way by the MPAA and the RIAA.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    All those "Lets play" people and (Hobby) "game critics" can still make videos and post them. They just can't make money doing so.

    There is nothing wrong with that.

    If these guys want to make money reviewing games they need to get a REAL JOB in the REAL WORLD. PERIOD.

    You seem confused on how the "real world" works. Most hobby game critics get almost no views, and even hobby game critics who post "lets play" videos tend to do the youtube partnership thing. Allowing them to make videos isn't nearly as effective as allowing big name streamers to do so on any level.

    saying people need to get a "real job" in the "real world" makes you sound like you're out of touch with reality. People should do whatever they enjoy and can make a living doing. Many companies see these types of people as mutually beneficial and have seen great success with them (i.e. valve). SE is literally letting probably the biggest marketing opportunity pass them by with this restriction.
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    Last edited by Hachiko; 08-30-2013 at 03:38 AM.

  3. #193
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    Wrong, anyone backed by a big company would have cleared it with SE. What your failing to realize is that this policy is nothing new. The policy is clamping down on one of the biggest issues hitting the online market to this date. and that is people using copyrighted material to make money without getting permission. there policy for music is entirely to protect them and the Player from getting sued. Since the game's audio itself is owned by the creators you face potential law suits if you use it outside the games context. all SE was doing was warning you not to do that. This does not stop a lot of people at all. the problem is that those you list as people who can no longer release there content off of the video are because they dont want to pay SE a share of it for using their stuff.

    Lets Talk Real World

    They are LITERALLY trying to say let me make money off you for free without your permission. the fact so many fail to understand that ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET PERMISSION is amazing. your trying to fight a so called noble cause for these video makers, who are only not allowed to make it because they refuse to share a part of the profits with SE. that is the truth. they want to use someones material and not give them credit or a portion of the profits. There is nothing noble in supporting that cause. It is natural in a business world to have to pay fee's for using another's work in your own. You know though the streamers wont tell you that cuz then they would look like the bad guy.

    Hard truth is that this is the law. In the real world you cant just sell a product using someones services or product and not owe them. the Apple store gets a percentage of your profits. so does android. this is nothing new. this is business. That is the world you enter when you decide to profit off it.
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    Last edited by Noata; 08-30-2013 at 03:54 AM.

  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by KonaZumi View Post
    I dont think any of you could understand how it feels, having someone make money off of something you ORIGNALLY have made....
    I can't speak for anyone else, but I can. I've been paid to write indie games. If someone wants to draw attention to my work and make a little money off doing so, I'd call that a mutually beneficial arrangement. As another poster pointed out, this is why smart companies like Blizzard and Arenanet allow that sort of thing. No one's saying that SE has no right to prevent people from making money off of FFXIV; people are just pointing out the reality that it's a mutually beneficial arrangement. Monetization of videos gives people incentive to produce much higher quality content that will get more views, and in turn drive much higher sales and subscriptions of FFXIV.
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  5. #195
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    Yeah, gotta love the arms of government defending such idiotic laws that don't improve our living. LAWS! YEAH! They're always right!


    Who cares how people make a living. Let them live.
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  6. #196
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    why dont i just take video camera to a theater and record a video while commentating it?
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    I'd be super excited to see XIV videos on YouTube, but if partners are going to whine like this I'm not interested. Make the video or don't, the game will continue. I sincerely hope you can continue without those few extra dollars you'd earn...eventually.
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    I can't believe this is even a discussion
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    I think it is funny people are telling these guys who make money off of youtube to get a real job to make money. Putting down others who make money off of video games is just sad if you ask me. Hell, they are lucky to be able to make a living off of playing a video game and releasing content or streaming etc. I think some people are just jealous that these guys can make a living doing something that they can only do in their free time. I personally think it is fantastic that there is a way for someone to make a living off of video games outside of being a pro gamer if that is something they are passionate about.

    At the end of the day if you can be happy with whatever field you work in that is a win in my book. So if these people are happy making youtube videos about video games I think that is just awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onnslaught View Post
    I think it is funny people are telling these guys who make money off of youtube to get a real job to make money. Putting down others who make money off of video games is just sad if you ask me. Hell, they are lucky to be able to make a living off of playing a video game and releasing content or streaming etc. I think some people are just jealous that these guys can make a living doing something that they can only do in their free time. I personally think it is fantastic that there is a way for someone to make a living off of video games outside of being a pro gamer if that is something they are passionate about.

    At the end of the day if you can be happy with whatever field you work in that is a win in my book. So if these people are happy making youtube videos about video games I think that is just awesome.
    why would i be jealous of some guy with a giant mole, is balding, and wears a tophat all day? surely not i!
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