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  1. #111
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    Laurana Hawklight
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    So sega, nintendo, and now you square enix ? I can understand why they are doing this (it's their ip after all make a lot of senses) but is it worth it ? Look at what happen to sega and nintendo square enix and learn from them.
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  2. #112
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    Let me get this straight: The OP and some others got mad because they can't use something they didn't make, aren't sponsored by, and has copyrights and go make money off of it doing "Promotional Videos"? My brain hurt from trying to figure out where this would be considered ok. I'm sorry but from a business standpoint I would bring the legal hammer down on anybody that took something I made for the sake of making money and then turned around and are making money on it without asking me or complying with a ToS. And if YT is your primary means of financial stability then you have some bigger issues. But seeing as how I don't want to be completely negative on the subject you can always try Twitch. At least there if you're good enough the masses will watch. And if you get enough people watching and following you then you MAY get a subscription button.
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  3. #113
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    LOL...is this thread legit? I don't even...
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eamil View Post
    This doesn't just affect those people. There are people under Youtube partnerships like Polaris that were planning on covering the game - they have legal agreements with game publishers to use footage from their games in videos, LEGALLY, and they are all railing against this Materials Usage Agreement because it supercedes those existing agreements and that makes no sense.
    It's highly doubtfull that some Youtube dude has a legal agreement about this with SE. Source or it's another person spouting BS cause he is butthurt.

    What is so hard to understand that you are not allowed to make money off someone else work. They are nothing else than cheap leechers that are butthurt now...
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  5. #115
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    No you do not get to make money off of SE. You did not get a license agreement. Imagine if someone started making video's off of characters and concepts you created and started making money off of it. It's not right. That is why copyright laws exist. Fair use laws state that you can make derivative works as long as you don't make money off of it. The second you make a profit is the second they can pull you down. I would have done it.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    It's highly doubtfull that some Youtube dude has a legal agreement about this with SE. Source or it's another person spouting BS cause he is butthurt.
    If by "some Youtube dude" you mean entire companies dedicated to making and monetizing content on Youtube, yes, that's exactly what happens.

    Youtube has what are called multi-channel networks. In case you don't actually feel like reading the source, the gist of it is a network enters into partnerships with individual Youtube channels, and the network handles the legal side of content production - in this case, securing agreements with game publishers to allow content producers to use and monetize footage from their games - so that the channels can legally monetize their work.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven View Post
    Did I say people can't make videos? No. I quoted exactly what the issue is.

    Regardless of your opinion about the YouTube video making community, the point is, ARR will not get nearly the coverage it could have gotten because of this policy in regards to monetization on YouTube. SE isn't in the business of charity and neither are most big YouTubers.

    Like I said, it's free promotion that SE doesn't have to pay for, why deny them monetization? They aren't paying for any of it? But they will in a negative way now.
    sounds like a "if we can't make money from it neither can you" type situation, Dunno what SE's problem with it is :x it doesn't hurt them and if anything....it increases subscriptions and...helps pay for continued subscriptions >.>; Draven, if you find a way around this i say go you
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  8. #118
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    Square this is pretty dumb. Youtubers post content that most of us use. Whether it be content guides, macro videos, etc, this content drives viewers to play the games. Which in turn generates you with more money, more subscribers, etc. It is nothing less than a win/win situation for all parties involved. Stopping this seems arbitrary at best, beyond stupid at worst. The game is great, I've loved every minute of it, but between the server problems and this, this just is bad. I do hope you reconsider.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilbertLapine View Post
    Totally agree. Also, depending on the scope of their 'monetization' definition, twitch is out, too. Support player content like this is one of the major factors that has kept WoW functioning as long as it has.
    I'm guessing you mean the PvP videos, arena tournament coverage and guides from sites like tankspot. Not mentioning entertainment via the machinima guys (like the dude that won the Rise to Power contest and some of the honorary mentions), the guys that make music videos, and random things (some of them monetize, some take donations, some are part of larger sites with subscriber benefits).
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  10. #120
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    People defending Square right now are hardcore drones. Hardcore.
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