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    They announced that the US/EU servers have big configuration options. Until they knock those out there is no point in adding more servers. Therefore they did announce what they are doing. It just wasn't what you wanted to hear so you're essentially putting hands over your ears and acting like they never said anything. Servers aren't so easy that you can just slap a few extra machines on and the problem is solved. Chill the heck out people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    They announced that the US/EU servers have big configuration options. Until they knock those out there is no point in adding more servers. Therefore they did announce what they are doing. It just wasn't what you wanted to hear so you're essentially putting hands over your ears and acting like they never said anything. Servers aren't so easy that you can just slap a few extra machines on and the problem is solved. Chill the heck out people.

    Well they better get to configuring the servers pretty quickly! Would be nice to play, for something you paid for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    They announced that the US/EU servers have big configuration options. Until they knock those out there is no point in adding more servers. Therefore they did announce what they are doing. It just wasn't what you wanted to hear so you're essentially putting hands over your ears and acting like they never said anything. Servers aren't so easy that you can just slap a few extra machines on and the problem is solved. Chill the heck out people.
    Why would they possibly set up the US/EU servers with different configurations than the JP servers? That makes absolutely no sense. Yes, they are different data centers, and yes the are in different parts of the world but it is still set up and run by the same company for the same game. You mean to sit there and say that they happened to configure the JP servers perfectly correctly so that they can just add servers to alleviate the problem, but they did a sloppy job on the NA/EU servers so they have to be "fixed" first before they can consider adding new servers to help? If that was really the case, then it totally justifies all the people screaming about SE favoritism and racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lord View Post
    Why would they possibly set up the US/EU servers with different configurations than the JP servers? That makes absolutely no sense. Yes, they are different data centers, and yes the are in different parts of the world but it is still set up and run by the same company for the same game. You mean to sit there and say that they happened to configure the JP servers perfectly correctly so that they can just add servers to alleviate the problem, but they did a sloppy job on the NA/EU servers so they have to be "fixed" first before they can consider adding new servers to help? If that was really the case, then it totally justifies all the people screaming about SE favoritism and racism.
    Please don't accuse SE of any kind of nationalism, I think that's why the first post like this was deleted.

    On topic, I would like assurance that the NA/EU population will get a permanent server fix but SE hasn't given us that assurance in their official announcements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xRitzx View Post
    Please don't accuse SE of any kind of nationalism, I think that's why the first post like this was deleted.

    On topic, I would like assurance that the NA/EU population will get a permanent server fix but SE hasn't given us that assurance in their official announcements.
    This is discrimination 101 sir. People don't get a pass on racism/sexism/etc because they have a reason for doing so. That's like saying it's okay for someone to be racist because they're old, or someone being sexist because they are from the middle east. They could add more servers in Japan and assign them to NA/EU temporarily until they get their montreal data center worked out. Instead they are blatantly discriminating against NA/EU players because they are not Japanese.
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    Last edited by Shaddix; 08-28-2013 at 02:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaddix View Post
    This is discrimination 101 sir. People don't get a pass because they have a reason for doing so. That's like saying it's okay for someone to be racist because they're old. They could add more servers in Japan and assign them to NA/EU temporarily until they get their montreal data center worked out. Instead they are blatantly discriminating against NA/EU players because they are not Japanese.
    Wouldn't that be a temporary fix? That's the last thing we would need... half-way doing things or some sort of lack of planning has resulted in the server failures we are seeing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lord View Post
    I didn't accuse SE of nationalism. What I said was if the information that the person was giving in the post I replied to was accurate, then that would justify all the people that were claiming SE was playing favorites. If you read the full post, you will see that I disagreed with the poster who stated those claims.
    Yes, so nationalism is different and was a poor word choice as an attempt to group everything into "one" category. The basic thing I was trying to say is avoid any talk of it if you want this thread to stay up and not get deleted like the old one.
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    Last edited by xRitzx; 08-28-2013 at 02:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xRitzx View Post
    Wouldn't that be a temporary fix? That's the last thing we would need... half-way doing things or some sort of lack of planning has resulted in the server failures we are seeing now.
    A temporary fix is fine if it can be implemented immediately. Which would you rather hear?:

    A) We are adding additional servers on the Japan data center for NA/EU players next week, we will transfer these servers to the NA datacenter when funds and technical resources allow. We apologize for the increased ping times.
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    B) We are adding additional servers on the NA/EU data center in 30 days, please continue to spam Error 1017 until the new servers are added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaddix View Post
    A temporary fix is fine if it can be implemented immediately. Which would you rather hear?:

    A) We are adding additional servers on the Japan data center for NA/EU players next week, we will transfer these servers to the NA datacenter when funds and technical resources allow. We apologize for the increased ping times.
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    B) We are adding additional servers on the NA/EU data center in 30 days, please continue to spam Error 1017 until the new servers are added.

    I would rather they simply given the full honest answer with the state of things as they know them and their plans for both short term and long term resolution. Yes the news might be unwelcome, but it's much better than the constant apologies but lacking any real information. As it is, their announcements are more akin to jerking people around than providing any sort of actual update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xRitzx View Post
    Please don't accuse SE of any kind of nationalism, I think that's why the first post like this was deleted.

    On topic, I would like assurance that the NA/EU population will get a permanent server fix but SE hasn't given us that assurance in their official announcements.
    I didn't accuse SE of nationalism. What I said was if the information that the person was giving in the post I replied to was accurate, then that would justify all the people that were claiming SE was playing favorites. If you read the full post, you will see that I disagreed with the poster who stated those claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lord View Post
    Why would they possibly set up the US/EU servers with different configurations than the JP servers? That makes absolutely no sense.
    You are correct, it makes no sense.
    But it happened, presumably due to operational problems (read, SE having to hire someone for the datacenter other than the ones that they hired for the JP ones given it's in another country. Coupled with the language barrier that exists between the personnel JP-side which are experienced [they fought with the beta after all] and the NA-side [they didn't] causing serious miscommunication issues which led to erroneous configurations)
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