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Thread: Scholar So Far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyriac_Darakus View Post
    On another note I just healed brayflox with SCH in Duty Finder group, Adloquium (This spell needs a better name) is a great spell ~~~snip
    Adloquium and probably all other shield abilities are going to benefit from crit hit greatly, someone check my math please:
    Physic:
    400 *1.5 = 600 potency
    Adloquium (assuming the shield is equal to the critical heal):
    300*1.5 + 450*2 = 1350 potency (2/3 shield, 1/3 heal)

    Adloquium is about 30% less efficient than physic, but has much lower chance to over heal and the shield increases the effective health, plus the shield only override it's self if it's higher (critical shield will override normal shield but not vice versa, so you don't have to worry).
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    Personally with my experience as a scholar (did my first dungeon last night) the only thing that really needs changed is to let us command our pet to heal when we are casting, and also increasing the radius of the aoe heal/magic defense shield.
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    So, has anyone noticed if our stats affect the Fairies at all? I had most of my gear break mid-run and I think my Fairies healing potency too a hit as well, but I didn't actually check proper. Got to say I'm really happy with Adloquium giving Scholar a secondary stat to focus on, plus if our critical hit stats carry over to the Fairies then that's another 20% spell speed from the trait which stacks nicely with Selene. I wonder if spell speed might actually be a worthwhile stat for Scholar to go after with that in mind... I know it was generally worthless in p3 for all but the longest spells (Summon being our longest?), but since we could fairly easily get 50% spell speed already it might be different for Scholar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Touhou View Post
    Is it a better idea to focus attributes on INT and just use Cleric Stance?
    Terrible idea. Cleric Stance gives you -20% on your healing spells, and all of Scholars gear focuses primarily on Mind, so that is going to beat out Intelligence in which case you're using Cleric Stance to get lower Mind and -20% healing magic. Cleric Stance is only good for turning your Mind into Intelligence, the fact that Scholar has access to it makes Intelligence almost a completely worthless stat for Scholar.

    Since they've neglected to give a free The Keeper's Hymn when unlocking a Job (though you can buy them for 10,000 company seals...) I'm waiting till 50 to put my attributes onto anything. Intelligence is the obvious choice for Summoner, and Mind for Scholar, but Piety might be a good middle ground (better than a 15:15 split, at least).
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    Last edited by Sotek; 08-27-2013 at 11:43 PM.

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    I just unlocked Scholar last night and only got to play around with it a little and, while this may be covered elsewhere, I think the issue with pet commands comes down to an auto attack, or lack thereof. While playing around with other pets, everyone of them uses their first skill as their "auto" attack even in obey, so the issue seems to be that both Fairies first skill is a heal. Basically, no matter the stance, the pet is going to try and do something so I think this might be the issue since there is nothing to make them completely idol.

    Again, I don't have a lot of exposure to the class and maybe this changes with additional skills or advanced parties or is completely wrong.

    Also great class with amazing potential, makes me worry how difficult things will be late game since the healing aspect of the game has been increased dramatically.
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    I unlocked scholar last night and immediately went into Haukke Manor with my husband as tank, thought 'its only one extra skill how hard could it be?' since I healed most of the other dungeons on arcanist. I dunno if at 30 the dungeons just get harder (I did them on archer in phase 3), or if my bad gear really had caught up on me (1 more lvl and I can buy new stuff), but it certainly was a lot harder.

    Took some trial and error but I figured out a system. First heal- adloquiem for the barrier, gives some time to get the fairy in place, aoe regen (cant remember the name), back on steady and just let her heal spam while I can apply DoTs and occasional adloquiem. I did have to put some of my fairy commands on my main hotbar, and I think I need to rearrange my abilities tonight. I was keeping them more or less in the same positions as they were as arcanist, but it led to a lot of confusion. The fairy AI was annoying at first but I think I can manage with it. I can see this is a job I will really enjoy, it's just going to take a little practice.

    I know there's a way to reset stats, but Im not sure I want to do it (plus I don't know how). I like healing, but I wouldnt want to solo as sch. I tried cleric stance and that -20% was terrible, I did less healing than I did without it on. Any idea how useful arcanist/summoner would be with all mnd stats at least for solo, so I can still go sch in groups? And is it worth it now to start dumping all my bonus points into mnd when they were all in int previously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    So, has anyone noticed if our stats affect the Fairies at all? I had most of my gear break mid-run and I think my Fairies healing potency too a hit as well, but I didn't actually check proper. Got to say I'm really happy with Adloquium giving Scholar a secondary stat to focus on, plus if our critical hit stats carry over to the Fairies then that's another 20% spell speed from the trait which stacks nicely with Selene. I wonder if spell speed might actually be a worthwhile stat for Scholar to go after with that in mind... I know it was generally worthless in p3 for all but the longest spells (Summon being our longest?), but since we could fairly easily get 50% spell speed already it might be different for Scholar?
    it does, all pets scale with your gear especially your weapon.
    you can test that easily, by removing all gear and equipping lvl 1 book, you have to re-summon the pet, note that the MND switch from cleric stance doesn't affect your pet.
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    Can any1 sahre some info on my questions pelase?
    So far as i can see scholar will lack some mind, he have intelect instead of mind as passive and his weapon also dont have mind. So only way to get more mind is to spend all your avaible atrributes to mind. In taht cause if your only pet dont have any dmg but only healing how you gonna kill things on questing?
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    So Windquake, when you get the scholar soul you should get a huge boost to your mind. This will help with healing although lower level gear is associated with intelligence for Arcanists. Also I see a lot of people who try to use there spells and then wait to use the fairy heals. The best thing to do is have their heals on your bar (drag it from your actions tab under pets) and use their heal first and then yours. You can cast while they are casting, so just got to manage it that way for now. Did Haukke manor and everyone was surprised at how overpowered the healing was.
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    I feel like I'm the only one who was happy with my scholar's healing effectiveness so far..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scerick View Post
    I feel like I'm the only one who was happy with my scholar's healing effectiveness so far..
    Nope, I'm extremely happy with it. Scholar itself seems very overpowered, especially in low level dungeons. I'm effectively a tank, DPS and healer for most of the trash mobs (and some of the bosses), much to the annoyance of everyone else. Heck, even my Fairy gets in on the tanking gig occasionally. I'm absolutely loving how this Fairy is a better tank and healer than most of the fools I've seen in Duty Finder parties.
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