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    It's not that I don't believe this, but where did they get these numbers. People are way too trusting of random numbers on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychicKoala View Post
    It's not that I don't believe this, but where did they get these numbers. People are way too trusting of random numbers on the internet.
    The link is in his post...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoram View Post
    The link is in his post...
    I see the link, I doubt vgchartz source. Because the only people with access to the information of how many digital orders they process is Square Enix, and anyone square enix tells. And you're not going to convince me that SE told VGchartz how many games they sold. Until someone can show me how VGchartz gets their numbers, I'm going to be apprehensive of trusting their numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychicKoala View Post
    I see the link, I doubt vgchartz source. Because the only people with access to the information of how many digital orders they process is Square Enix, and anyone square enix tells. And you're not going to convince me that SE told VGchartz how many games they sold. Until someone can show me how VGchartz gets their numbers, I'm going to be apprehensive of trusting their numbers.
    Retailers report to SE how many units sold, SE then reports units sold to its investors, those reports are [usually] open to the public. So, that's HOW vgchartz gets it data. If you're looking for the source data, probably going to have to ask Vgchartz where they get that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmorgan View Post
    Retailers report to SE how many units sold, SE then reports units sold to its investors, those reports are [usually] open to the public. So, that's HOW vgchartz gets it data. If you're looking for the source data, probably going to have to ask Vgchartz where they get that.
    This is probably me being stubborn but a pet peeve of mine is people just pulling numbers out of their butt just because they can and most people believe it if they say "our sources". I've always been critical of any kind of stats like this, and tend to not even trust the devs for these numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychicKoala View Post
    This is probably me being stubborn but a pet peeve of mine is people just pulling numbers out of their butt just because they can and most people believe it if they say "our sources". I've always been critical of any kind of stats like this, and tend to not even trust the devs for these numbers.
    Which is understandable and if you look at my previous response to the main post, VGChartz doesn't report digital sales (at least last time I researched them), only retail box copies, so the numbers in this case aren't accurate. But, the numbers they do report for box sales are fairly accurate.
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    It is with great pleasure that we announce the commencement of service for FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn *technically, we're still in labor...turns out our 'gina was WAY smaller than what we're planning to eventually, someday, hopefully soon deliver*, on Windows PC and PlayStation®3.

    The realm of Eorzea has been reborn *We're pushing really hard, trust us, I think we tore something sensitive* in every sense of the word, featuring a new and improved graphics engine *Gotta admit that character creator is pretty isn't it?*, vast and breathtaking areas *You can totally change the background on the character creator*, a captivating FINAL FANTASY story, a comprehensive character creator, a sleek interface, and fast-paced combat.*Did we mention that really awesome character creator in there?*

    With an overwhelming number of participants *Seriously though! We're Japanese and we totally did not see them, like ninjas with check-books!* during the alpha and beta test phases, player feedback played a significant role in shaping the game. We can confidently *Business speak for, please buy this!* say we created the latest FINAL FANTASY title together with our fans. *The REAL fans...the hardcore and dedicated few...or the 15 that we let log in today*

    As we continue creating new stories and adventures in the years ahead *That character creator cannot be improved upon*, we pledge to spare no effort *Hoping sincerely that you don't think we mean that* to ensure that Eorzea will always *1017* be *3102* a place that our players *1016* are proud to call home. *We just crit you for over 90000*

    FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Development and Operations Team"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychicKoala View Post
    It's not that I don't believe this, but where did they get these numbers. People are way too trusting of random numbers on the internet.
    No the numbers are correct! Count the servers in your lists it is not that hard to get a accurate number. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystal_Storm View Post
    No the numbers are correct! Count the servers in your lists it is not that hard to get a accurate number. lol
    Not that I'm one to come to anyone's defense, but if anyone knows what they're talking about it better be a PsychicKoala, or my faith in koalas has been misplaced. Further, I think the numbers that are just pulled are the sales numbers. We're probably all at least mostly able to count to 25 with relative success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necropoke View Post
    Not that I'm one to come to anyone's defense, but if anyone knows what they're talking about it better be a PsychicKoala, or my faith in koalas has been misplaced. Further, I think the numbers that are just pulled are the sales numbers. We're probably all at least mostly able to count to 25 with relative success.
    What they need is to half the number of worlds and double the servers associated with the worlds. Giving more individual servers is not going to fix congestion on already established worlds without character transfer. We need more processing power pure and simple. They won't even acknowledge the need for more processing power. Like children with a broken toy they just keep saying "I'll fix it". Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me 3 times ok WTF, fool me 4 times alright enough already, fool me 5 times oh FFS just give up already and give us more processing power you CAN'T FIX IT. lol
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