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  1. #521
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    seebs's Avatar
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    Merisioux Antoinette
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoveurt View Post
    The purpose of my argument is to establish that there isn't a separate FEE for AE!
    That's a pure red herring, with no bearing on things at all. Imagine that your job makes it impossible to play MMOs except on weekends. And imagine that an MMO is down absolutely all day every day on weekends. You could argue that you don't pay a separate fee for weekends, they are bundled in with service during the week, so you aren't out anything you paid for... And it would be just as accurate as your current argument. People are made an offer of getting a certain product+service bundle. They then don't get that. It is not unreasonable for them to complain about this.
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  2. #522
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    avatarstryfe's Avatar
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    Shadow Edge
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 16
    If you get the "World is currently full" message it means you just got screwed outta your que and are back at the start of the terrible and fruitless process. not sure why they are doing it this way, but it does seem a wee bit underhanded. I also today have gotten error 90000 and 2002 prolly more times than I can count. I don't mind the errors...who cares...what I do mind is getting kicked to desktop...gotta use my security key again.... this thing better have good batteries...its 3 years old now and ive used it more in the last two days than the entire life of ffxiv 1.0. This is definitely a bad early access. I feel like they need to dbl the servers, and give everyone who has a registered character before the new servers a server change option. the problem will work itself out then.
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    "In shadows crawl we slowly weave, what shadows crawl out and deceive"
    -Shadow Edge 2013

  3. #523
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    FullmetalMuse's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Fullmetal Muse
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Gotta love the race to log in before others.... L o L FML.............
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  4. #524
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    Nataskiller's Avatar
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    Seigy Heart
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoveurt View Post
    LOL it's quite alright. That's why I identify myself as an asshole before calling someone else one! It's all in good fun!
    haha roger that lol!
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  5. #525
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    EliteNoob's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Shadic Uchiha
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by avatarstryfe View Post
    If you get the "World is currently full" message it means you just got screwed outta your que and are back at the start of the terrible and fruitless process. not sure why they are doing it this way, but it does seem a wee bit underhanded. I also today have gotten error 90000 and 2002 prolly more times than I can count. I don't mind the errors...who cares...what I do mind is getting kicked to desktop...gotta use my security key again.... this thing better have good batteries...its 3 years old now and ive used it more in the last two days than the entire life of ffxiv 1.0. This is definitely a bad early access. I feel like they need to dbl the servers, and give everyone who has a registered character before the new servers a server change option. the problem will work itself out then.
    Doesn't run on batteries it runs on false truths and sorrow
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  6. #526
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    DayumQuitPlayin's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Angelus Lapsis
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    The 1.5 hr maintenance is to give the IT guys a smoke and bathroom break.
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  7. #527
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    Hoveurt's Avatar
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    Kobra Paige
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    Diabolos
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by seebs View Post
    That's a pure red herring, with no bearing on things at all. Imagine that your job makes it impossible to play MMOs except on weekends. And imagine that an MMO is down absolutely all day every day on weekends. You could argue that you don't pay a separate fee for weekends, they are bundled in with service during the week, so you aren't out anything you paid for... And it would be just as accurate as your current argument. People are made an offer of getting a certain product+service bundle. They then don't get that. It is not unreasonable for them to complain about this.
    Hey person, I'm just as peeved as everyone else about not being able to log in since 10 am CT. Your argument doesn't apply to my argument, because it requires one to establish an assumption based on a theoretical situation. My argument is a counter argument, stating that Early Access is given to people who pre-ordered the game, and not given to people for paying EXTRA money aside from the purchase of the game. I am correct in this argument. I have not defended SquareEnix for anything at all, all I'm trying to help people understand is that they aren't out any EXTRA money. Even if you only pre-ordered because of the offer to Early Access doesn't mean you paid MORE money than Joe Blow is gonna pay tomorrow at the store.
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  8. #528
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    Mr_Unhappy_Pants's Avatar
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    Sigurd Maelstrom
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    Goblin
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    Lancer Lv 20
    I have had almost every single error they could throw at you over the past 4-5 days (Including open beta in that statement)...I only have one thing to say, and I think all of you, everyone should say it with me.

    "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore! I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!!"

    Everyone, all together!!
    "We're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore!!!"

    End of Therapy.
    My business card: Mr_Unhappy_Pants, Analrapist
    Therapist/Analyst
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  9. #529
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    Cailet's Avatar
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    Cailet Kezef
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 18

    I can't log on AT ALL

    For the second day of early access I maybe got 2 hours of play time after trying to log in for over 10 hours. I finally get in and get to working on my quests and I am doing lvl 15 story quests at 18 because I've only been able to do hunting logs and fates. When I finally get to my dungeon quest it 90k errors me AGAIN and then 1017s me. I'm getting incredibly frustrated.
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  10. #530
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    Xinnieh's Avatar
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    Xin Xiraei
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    It's Maint now. Let's hope that this maint actually DOES something for a change =)
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