I like the market wards

[Gracious]

I do not like market wards and would like a proper AH.

[Cairdeas]

I do not like market wards and would like a proper AH.

What features specifically from the AH that are missing from the Marketwards are you missing?

[RinL]

What features specifically from the AH that are missing from the Marketwards are you missing?

Honestly, I like the simplicity of Auction Houses over how Market Wards work.

I agree that the current system we have in place works, but I have a hard time seeing why anyone would be against simplifying the situation. I understand how the OP can sort of immerse himself/herself in the fact that he is hiring a retainer to sell his/her items, but that is not something many players take into account. For the RP minded, I can see how the system would be neat.

The thing is, the current system is a hassle. Player have to zone in and out of different areas, use the search feature multiple times to mark npcs, and search through tons of different npcs to find the best deals.

Why go through all that trouble when you could just talk to an Auctioneer that is fencing goods from across all the different cities / areas? Use one menu to search for the different items you want, and purchase the auctions you think are going for a fair price. Visit your mailbox after making your purchases, and your done!

In the end, an Auction House would make things better on a few different levels. Its faster, simpler, and it would tie all the different cities together without causing a crowding issue with retainers.

Now id like to turn the question back on you if you dont mind - What about an Auction System dont you like? Why do you prefer the Market Wards over Auction Houses?

[RinL]

If you're going to make the statement that you want an AH or that an AH is better in some way from the MWs... then you need to specify exactly what kind of AH in detail.

There are many different ways to do them, so without specifics, your statements are essentially worthless.


I also like the MWs as is. Though someone made the point that it would be nice to see the crafter's name. I would like to see them add the Retainer's sponsor (the player's name) to the Retainer window somewhere so you can contact them if you would like to have specific consignments.

Also wanted to touch on this to go along with my previous post.

In my eyes, an Auction House in FF14 could be very similar to how the World of Warcraft has theirs set up.

Each town would have a main Auction House or Hall. Players could talk with the Auctioneers there to post their goods, or use the same interface to look for items they want.

Players selling their goods would place a bid and/or buyout price for others to use.

Buyers could then search for any item they want, and then place a bid or instantly buyout the item. This is all done without zoning and looking through different NPC's.

Thats a very quick description of a possible system, but I wanted to toss it out there in case anyone had any questions

[Cairdeas]

Honestly, I like the simplicity of Auction Houses over how Market Wards work.

I agree that the current system we have in place works, but I have a hard time seeing why anyone would be against simplifying the situation. I understand how the OP can sort of immerse himself/herself in the fact that he is hiring a retainer to sell his/her items, but that is not something many players take into account. For the RP minded, I can see how the system would be neat.

The thing is, the current system is a hassle. Player have to zone in and out of different areas, use the search feature multiple times to mark npcs, and search through tons of different npcs to find the best deals.

Why go through all that trouble when you could just talk to an Auctioneer that is fencing goods from across all the different cities / areas? Use one menu to search for the different items you want, and purchase the auctions you think are going for a fair price. Visit your mailbox after making your purchases, and your done!

In the end, an Auction House would make things better on a few different levels. Its faster, simpler, and it would tie all the different cities together without causing a crowding issue with retainers.

Now id like to turn the question back on you if you dont mind - What about an Auction System dont you like? Why do you prefer the Market Wards over Auction Houses?

Blind and Time bidding which are the only things that make an Auction House an Auction House. All the fixes you mentioned do not make a market system an auction house. They just simplify and improve the convenience of the current market system and as such can be implemented to the current Market Wards without ever implementing an Auction House.

[RinL]

Blind and Time bidding which are the only things that make an Auction House an Auction House. All the fixes you mentioned do not make a market system an auction house. They just simplify and improve the convenience of the current market system and as such can be implemented to the current Market Wards without ever implementing an Auction House.

Excellent, then it seems we agree on my notes for improvement?

Call it what you will, auction house or improved market wards. Simply introducing the features I have mentioned would make things easier on every player using the wards.

Can you think of any reasons we should not make things easier on players trying to buy and sell items? Any drawbacks that would hurt the game or its players?

Im just trying to get a handle on why so many people seem to have such a problem with making the types of changes I mentioned earlier