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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    I am as hardcore as it gets
    You lost all credibility right there.

    The Wards are the least of what they should be concentrating their efforts on. I can go to them, search for an item and get the item with little difficulty. Implementing an AH now would just set back other content at this point.

    We do not need more anima but alternative transportation methods would be much appreciated.

    As for NM's/HMN, the ONLY way they should be implemented is with non-riduculous spawn timers and a large enough spawn radius that it would render even the idea of claim bots to be laughable. For those of you who don't think that claim bots would come about if HMN were done FFXI style you are kidding yourselves.

    Also OP, you like many many others on this board are living in the rosy-tinted memories of FFXI past. Seemingly forgetting the many headaches that game threw our way over the years.

    Like many of my fellow players I just don't have 8+ hrs to play every single day anymore, people have jobs and responsibilities that things like staying up til/gettin up at 4am to try and wrestle with an HM that moved into that time slot basically becomes a bad idea. The ability to roam around one place for hours waiting to fight over a claim does not equal skill or challenge. However I'm all for NM's that requires tactics and organization to best in combat.

    Also you aren't hardcore, no player is. It's merely a delusional status one gives themselves to justify spending a borderline unhealthy amount of time gaming which many of us are guilty of doing at some point in our lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    You lost all credibility right there.

    The Wards are the least of what they should be concentrating their efforts on. I can go to them, search for an item and get the item with little difficulty. Implementing an AH now would just set back other content at this point.

    We do not need more anima but alternative transportation methods would be much appreciated.

    As for NM's/HMN, the ONLY way they should be implemented is with non-riduculous spawn timers and a large enough spawn radius that it would render even the idea of claim bots to be laughable. For those of you who don't think that claim bots would come about if HMN were done FFXI style you are kidding yourselves.

    Also OP, you like many many others on this board are living in the rosy-tinted memories of FFXI past. Seemingly forgetting the many headaches that game threw our way over the years.

    Like many of my fellow players I just don't have 8+ hrs to play every single day anymore, people have jobs and responsibilities that things like staying up til/gettin up at 4am to try and wrestle with an HM that moved into that time slot basically becomes a bad idea. The ability to roam around one place for hours waiting to fight over a claim does not equal skill or challenge. However I'm all for NM's that requires tactics and organization to best in combat.

    Also you aren't hardcore, no player is. It's merely a delusional status one gives themselves to justify spending a borderline unhealthy amount of time gaming which many of us are guilty of doing at some point in our lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    You lost all credibility right there.

    The Wards are the least of what they should be concentrating their efforts on. I can go to them, search for an item and get the item with little difficulty. Implementing an AH now would just set back other content at this point.

    We do not need more anima but alternative transportation methods would be much appreciated.

    As for NM's/HMN, the ONLY way they should be implemented is with non-riduculous spawn timers and a large enough spawn radius that it would render even the idea of claim bots to be laughable. For those of you who don't think that claim bots would come about if HMN were done FFXI style you are kidding yourselves.

    Also OP, you like many many others on this board are living in the rosy-tinted memories of FFXI past. Seemingly forgetting the many headaches that game threw our way over the years.

    Like many of my fellow players I just don't have 8+ hrs to play every single day anymore, people have jobs and responsibilities that things like staying up til/gettin up at 4am to try and wrestle with an HM that moved into that time slot basically becomes a bad idea. The ability to roam around one place for hours waiting to fight over a claim does not equal skill or challenge. However I'm all for NM's that requires tactics and organization to best in combat.

    Also you aren't hardcore, no player is. It's merely a delusional status one gives themselves to justify spending a borderline unhealthy amount of time gaming which many of us are guilty of doing at some point in our lives.
    do you think mobs like DI who had large zone spawn zones werent botted

    your saying it like if se makes the nm pop anywhere a botter wont know or wont work?

    and to say there isn't already is foolish

    everything is possible
    look at ffxi when a hacker started banning gm accounts
    look at psn
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    Last edited by Amage; 04-25-2011 at 03:04 AM.
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    Well if it's possible to bot any NM/HMN then why are you arguing for going back to the same old tactics?

    They are changing how it works in FFXI now, why would they bring it back to life in this game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    Well if it's possible to bot any NM/HMN then why are you arguing for going back to the same old tactics?

    They are changing how it works in FFXI now, why would they bring it back to life in this game?
    Not what im saying at all . what im saying is making hnm or nms longer pop times not this 5min pops and bring competition to rival linkshells not just awe well its gonna pop in 30sec again where it is w/e if you claim
    also to make the armor that drops far better to where you can wear for more then 5 lvls or 1 lvl in some cases
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    Not what im saying at all . what im saying is making hnm or nms longer pop times not this 5min pops and bring competition to rival linkshells not just awe well its gonna pop in 30sec again where it is w/e if you claim
    also to make the armor that drops far better to where you can wear for more then 5 lvls or 1 lvl in some cases
    Again. Time =/= Challenge or Competition

    increasing the time for pops wont do anything but increase the time people have to sit around waiting.

    I'd rather see HNM's be Arena fights where the true challenge is implemented by the arena not "Competeting for the pop" thats a false challenge.

    Like I said in my first post in this thread, The high level NM's should be from Arenas where theres special rules when you enter the fight like no MP/HP regen, no stat/class/equipment changing, hate covers the whole arena are the three ideas I think would increase the challenge exponentially but these rules wouldn't fit in a normal world zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    Not what im saying at all . what im saying is making hnm or nms longer pop times not this 5min pops and bring competition to rival linkshells not just awe well its gonna pop in 30sec again where it is w/e if you claim
    also to make the armor that drops far better to where you can wear for more then 5 lvls or 1 lvl in some cases
    I wouldn't expect that the higher level ones will have 5min repop times, they may even increase the spawn time on the existing ones based on feedback. Who knows. I still think that progressive content is the way to go over luck but that is my personal belief. The way ZNM's functioned would be a decent platform to build from as you worked your way up to progressively harder NM's and it could branch in different ways while getting some semi-decent or situational gear along the way.
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