1.17 NMs: Let's talk about them...

[darkstarpoet1]

i hope all the ones that love the fact it's dropping the demand on crafters because i know quite a few crafters on my server have now doubled the cost to make an item for someone as a payback. the crafters are going to make their money one way or another. if midrange gear no longer is making them profits they are passing along the losses on the higher end gear.

[Synthesis]

All r30-40 rings, earrings at NM
I found all rings, earrings created by GS 30-40, are dropped now at NMs with very fast pop rate, drop rate.

This ruins
1) gatherer, raw gems are worthless
2) goldsmith, r.30 - he can sell all of this to npc now

I think this is not only case. NMs should be re-investigated and put into some ballance, with longer pop rate or with less % chance to get common rings, stuff. I feel these new NMs was put in the game instead of wards.

Really. You nerfed other crafters, gatherers with this.

It was rushed out.

[Bittereye]

I have to say that they have made this game way too easy now. Dodore is a joke now. Nothing is challenging anymore... SE, please do not lower the difficulty anymore than it is. We could fight the older NMs pre 1.17 patch with 8 members at the harder difficulty. That was fun, strategic and challenging. Now we are forced to use 8 members but the difficulty was lowered. As a result they are not even fun to fight anymore. Its like an MMO on super easy mode. Most of us are from FFXI and want that challenge. It's what keeps us logging in. Im afraid to admit but if this trend keeps happening, people will not want to login anymore and begin to log back in to your older IP... FFXI.

[Synthesis]

I have to say that they have made this game way too easy now. Dodore is a joke now. Nothing is challenging anymore... SE, please do not lower the difficulty anymore than it is. We could fight the older NMs pre 1.17 patch with 8 members at the harder difficulty. That was fun, strategic and challenging. Now we are forced to use 8 members but the difficulty was lowered. As a result they are not even fun to fight anymore. Its like an MMO on super easy mode. Most of us are from FFXI and want that challenge. It's what keeps us logging in. Im afraid to admit but if this trend keeps happening, people will not want to login anymore and begin to log back in to your older IP... FFXI.

I have to agree this game is becoming joke under Yoshi-P lead. Difficulty is lowering, more options for casuals - alright why not. But even some casuals players wanna challenge. All is joke now. You can stay and spam button unless mob die, while conj spam heal. Nothing is happening. Game is easier with every patch.

I think you could get a ancient, relic weapon like this from future NMs. Just 1key spamming - maybe just put autoattack on and go to prepare a tea while nm dies. conj will do the rest.

+ NMs now took majority over gatherers and crafters. Crafters and gatherers r20-40 were threw aside with insane NM pop, drop rate. My set of gems became worthless now when NMs drop all kind of rings and earrings, I sold them to npc so it saved my space, but I had this sour face, while doing that.

I hope someone will send this to dev. team. They re going too easy way, I dont like this at all. NMs are joke, 2 r35 - can duo NM r 49. My whole LS got their rings from NMs, no reason to SP GS when you cant sell the things.

Shame on what is happening from game.

[Lienn]

I have to agree this game is becoming joke under Yoshi-P lead. Difficulty is lowering, more options for casuals - alright why not. But even some casuals players wanna challenge. All is joke now. You can stay and spam button unless mob die, while conj spam heal. Nothing is happening. Game is easier with every patch.

I think you could get a ancient, relic weapon like this from future NMs. Just 1key spamming - maybe just put autoattack on and go to prepare a tea while nm dies. conj will do the rest.

+ NMs now took majority over gatherers and crafters. Crafters and gatherers r20-40 were threw aside with insane NM pop, drop rate. My set of gems became worthless now when NMs drop all kind of rings and earrings, I sold them to npc so it saved my space, but I had this sour face, while doing that.

I hope someone will send this to dev. team. They re going too easy way, I dont like this at all. NMs are joke, 2 r35 - can duo NM r 49. My whole LS got their rings from NMs, no reason to SP GS when you cant sell the things.

Shame on what is happening from game.

THIS is what i've been saying since the very first letter from the producer. I kept a constant feedback (even before official forum) regarding every point they announce to try and prevent thid from happening. But we need more people that enjoyed the game before to do like you did...show that they are unpleasant with such changes.

Its like i said...these new NMs can be entertaining for midrank ppl...i myself like doing hunts and loved the repop rate...but the way they dealt with all loot part was very sad IMO...its like they are not part of this FF context since they follow the old concepts of archaic games instead of adjusting the things to the mechanics of this game.

[Betelgeuzah]

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...4faff34ed00e74

This is the community's reply to whether they want to see drastic changes in Eorzea. The majority do.

You are not part of the majority. Deal with it or get out.

[Lienn]

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...4faff34ed00e74

This is the community's reply to whether they want to see drastic changes in Eorzea. The majority do.

You are not part of the majority. Deal with it or get out.

No, i'm not. However i bought the game and liked it..and do voted against changes at bot polls. And i'm already tired of dev team hiding behind a poll built with malicious questions (its already explained in a million topic here...not explaining again) to trick such naive playerbase this game had to give them white card to do whatever they want.

I've been offering them, instead, constructive feedback since the start in a try of prottecting this game from becoming a copy/paste of other MMOs, just like it is right now...what about you? Seens like you prefer the "Do whatever you want to my game!" approach. Keep in mind that its not beta anymore...we all bought the game. Quality is a "must have" now...we cannot wait them change then undo then redo stuff like they are doing.

This game has a solid system and a solid mechanic...nothing more than a few tweaks are needed. They should be making real content that fit this game instead of copying stuff from other games and trying to adjust it to this one. Right now the dev team is trying to fit a glove in a cow paw. They are expecting that as they keep copying/paste content there will be a day where the old, original content will not be used anymore so they can just remove it.

[Betelgeuzah]

And i'm already tired of dev team hiding behind a poll built with malicious questions (its already explained in a million topic here...not explaining again) to trick such naive playerbase this game had to give them white card to do whatever they want.

Sounds like a sore loser speaking to me. Players asked for drastic changes, Yoshida is making (or planning to make) drastic changes... who was tricked here? Nobody. The vast majority is getting exactly what they wanted, and you as a part of the minority need to deal with it. And it's not like they are rehauling everything- so the small minority isn't getting completely ignored either.

what about you?

I voice my concerns over individual changes, but I don't judge them for having a vision of their own as to how to build this game from now on. I will either like the end result or I will step away and find something else to do.

we cannot wait them change then undo then redo stuff like they are doing.

Most people aren't. But you are not one to judge who can and who can not. Nobody has any obligations to anyone or anything.

This game has a solid system and a solid mechanic...nothing more than a few tweaks are needed.

Less than 30 000 people agree with you. Hundreds of thousands of people disagree with you. Again, as a minority, put up with it or leave. If the majority thought few tweaks are needed, they would still be around and S-E would have completed the tweaks. That isn't the case.

You do not decide what they 'should' or 'should not' be doing. You are simply one irrelevant opinion among the others. If you end up hating the game yet the majority end up liking it, that's what S-E should be aiming for. Because right now the situation is completely opposite and we can all make our own assumptions as to whether this is a good situation for them to be in or not.

[Lienn]

Well, yes i do can judge what they can and what they can't. I bought the game...the game is mine. I have the right to express my opinion and concerns about the changes they are doing in my game.

If you prefer to just watch from far away its your right to do so...but don't come troll here if you don't have anything regarding the topic to add (or at least edit one of your posts and put a random "NM" somewhere to pretend its not off-topic).

Now let's go back to topic, OK? Specially because if my opinion is irrelevant, so are yours. But anyway...what you think about this last batch of NMs, Mr. Belzepatrick?

[Gail]

Last week they were a nice addition I guess but now I don't really care about the NMs.
And I don't think the average player should worry too much about their implementation.
Just a bunch of NMs soloable @50 dropping midrange town gear with over-generous jewellery drops.
Its not a make or break for the game.

This was a cheap 'give the players something to do and they're less likely to complain' fix.
Its a standard short term fix for players, if they have something to do they're less likely to complain.
Honestly I would have done the same because this game needs anything thrown at it right now.
Now the shine has worn off the new NMs, next week people will care even less and the week after you'll probably see the NMs running around just waiting for someone to kill them.

We need more alot more.