Say yes to Cross-world group finder

[Asaren]

I say yes.

[Kaedan]

The community is the only one that can take care of the community, using wow as an example, as some people have done, is stupid, because the game mechanics and community are totally different, there is no change name, in this game, if i'm a ninja, i cant just change my name or make another toon, w/o loosing all the progress i have done here :/

Which is exactly one of the problems with cross-server parties. People don't need to worry about accountability because they will most likely never see them again. But thanks for making one of the points for us.

And PvP would only "ruin the community" if it was open world PvP. Having a duel system or Ballista-like PvP would not adversely effect the community since it would be pure, real choice. Cross-server parties are not pure, real choice. The fact they would even exist means it have an effect (a bad one) on the community.

[Zenaku]

Which is exactly one of the problems with cross-server parties. People don't need to worry about accountability because they will most likely never see them again. But thanks for making one of the points for us.

I agree even if you post it on website saying player warning they wont care he did it because it was a random dungeon players on his world would easy go it's a random dungeon i would have done the same thing. no one want to waste time doing a dungeon and seeing a item they need so they just going to ninja loot thing they want for later.

now if you do this with players on your own world they would post it on the forums within there world and players wont invite them and they would get bad rep. Most wow players don't even care if you ninja loot in dungeons they just kick you and you can join other one in 30mins

[Kilta_Firelotus]

ya you guys still are not really giving valid reasons, and are saiying myths NOT facts. fact WoW had a bad community well before dungeon finder and cross server que systems, looking for anyone willing to help was nearly impossible. I played WoW pre dungeon fimder and played on about 5 servers. Getting help with dungeons for quests was painstaking. Between shouting, asking in guilds I was on, no one cared to help. Similar is happening on ffxi. And from what I'm hearing ppl in ffxiv are stuck in their LS's. Aion is the same also. It is not that ppl are lazy to look for help, it is that there is no one willing to help. And as for accountability, that is player by player. It can happen no matter what. I met plenty of crude players in every mmo. You guys are not winning any "nice people" awards either truth be told. Sorry but irritated at ppl bringoing up myths as facts.

Half if not everything you guys are saying can happen with or with out cross server grouping. And what other people do is none of your concern.

[Bled]

ya you guys still are not really giving valid reasons, and are saiying myths NOT facts. fact WoW had a bad community well before dungeon finder and cross server que systems, looking for anyone willing to help was nearly impossible. I played WoW pre dungeon fimder and played on about 5 servers. Getting help with dungeons for quests was painstaking. Between shouting, asking in guilds I was on, no one cared to help. Similar is happening on ffxi. And from what I'm hearing ppl in ffxiv are stuck in their LS's. Aion is the same also. It is not that ppl are lazy to look for help, it is that there is no one willing to help. And as for accountability, that is player by player. It can happen no matter what. I met plenty of crude players in every mmo. You guys are not winning any "nice people" awards either truth be told. Sorry but irritated at ppl bringoing up myths as facts.

Half if not everything you guys are saying can happen with or with out cross server grouping. And what other people do is none of your concern.

Fact: cross server que has an effect on a community.
Myth: all MMO's suffer from the same bad communities.

Not all MMO communities suffer from the same problems, and not all communities are as rude,crude or inconsiderate compared to others.

[Commat]

ya you guys still are not really giving valid reasons, and are saiying myths NOT facts. fact WoW had a bad community well before dungeon finder and cross server que systems, looking for anyone willing to help was nearly impossible. I played WoW pre dungeon fimder and played on about 5 servers. Getting help with dungeons for quests was painstaking. Between shouting, asking in guilds I was on, no one cared to help. Similar is happening on ffxi. And from what I'm hearing ppl in ffxiv are stuck in their LS's. Aion is the same also. It is not that ppl are lazy to look for help, it is that there is no one willing to help. And as for accountability, that is player by player. It can happen no matter what. I met plenty of crude players in every mmo. You guys are not winning any "nice people" awards either truth be told. Sorry but irritated at ppl bringoing up myths as facts.

Half if not everything you guys are saying can happen with or with out cross server grouping. And what other people do is none of your concern.

You type more words in a day then i do in a month. How does your English have so much downs?

Not being a jerk, i am honestly curious. So curious, in fact, that i wrote you this poem.

Your words are crap
They make me cry.

Even with amazing girth
fantastic topics you turn to dirt.

Opinions bold and without merit
you have less brains then my brother's ferret.

His name is trouble, he sniffs his crotch
I hope one day you find the decency
to cease your thoughts and let them rot.

It took me seconds to write this. It is childish, makes me feel bad, and worthless.
But hey, at least it's legible.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

commat I got ADD...... Not that easy for me to type "well enough".



And bled you would be surpised... I've been on several ffxi server WoW servers and every Aion server. (i like jumping around) And honestly I saw very few to no differences. People are people they will act how every they want. To say cross server grouping causes these issues is asinine.

I proposed this in mirror thread.

the reason for cross server grouping is most cases is the community on the same server isn't always as helpful as you guys assume. I had a rough time in WoW and ffxi getting stuff done due to lack of help. People do not join pugs under the same excuse as "ninja looting" So ppl stick with their LS. I played WoW pre dungeon finder and got left in a dungeon. I didn't do anything wrong, ppl just got their gear and left. And it took me an hour to find those ppl.

If you guys do not want cross server grouping do your part. Be more able, willing, forethcoming with grouping with ppl outside your LS's for levequests and such.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Oh and commat... that poem is pretty bad. I write better poetry then I do with typing out stuff. I find it funny that ppl assume they write a poem just by rhyming words....
How is this for a poem

As day turns to twilight
The raven flies.
Flying along the trail lit by the moon.
A cry echos in the night
the raven flies the moon lit path
It comes to a house, old and grayed
Another cry is echo'ed into the night
The raven lands
the moon shining on a window

The raven peeks
He calls, the crys halt
Away into the night
Goes the raven and this soul

[Zaireeka2025]

/Signed for yes. This will not only keep playing in groups a fresh experience, but also maintain healthy dungeon populations/circulations.

[Commat]

Once again you've missed the point. You assume i think that poems have to rhyme, i don't. Or, that i care about the strength of mine, which i pointed out in my first post i don't.

The point was to tease you.

A proper comeback from you would have been a poem about how i am a fat looser that sits around all day doing nothing(which i am and do) or something of that sort. You weren't supposed to take out your diary and post a real poem.

Anyways, sorry for making fun of you.
nice poem, I like stories about birds.