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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostia View Post
    Blind faith in what ? Lets say for arguments sake, that they implement the system exactly as it is in WOW, YOU! CAN STILL FORM YOUR OWN GROUPS FROM YOUR SERVER!! FROM YOUR LINKSHELL ETC ETC!! So why are you so concerned with what OTHER PLAYERS play the game ??

    If they wanna use the LFG system, good for them, you and everybody else can go group up the good old way, and they can do it their way, is a WIN/WIN both camps are served, again whats the problem ?

    Because even if I choose not to use it, it doesn't change the fact that it drastically reduces the number of intra-server groups formed and diminishes the sense of community within the server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post

    Because even if I choose not to use it, it doesn't change the fact that it drastically reduces the number of intra-server groups formed and diminishes the sense of community within the server.
    It is not SE Job to monitor and decide how the community behaves, also that should not be your concern, if people wanna ruin their own experience by using the system, that's their loss, why do you care how others play the game again ?

    Oh and no it wont kill intra-server groups, everybody would rather group with people they know and trust, than with strangers :P
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    kaeden you such a (fill in the blank). Holding grugdes is pretty sad thing to do dude, as well as basing your fight on something so sad as post count. My post count is high cuz I like socialising on here. I do not type very well, bor do I say what I want to say very well. I use my personal experiences or as ppl put it "sob stories" as the best way I can get my point across. If I don't do that I get lost into what I try to say, and it wouldn't come out well.

    Which is also what others are unintentionaly doing. Including you. You guys do not want this system based on past experiences on previous mmo. Just not talking in detail.

    And also no one here is stating an opinion, they are stating facts which are infact invalid. Sorry but again, there is no valid reason not to have cross sever que systems. WoW had a bad community before dingeon finder. DCUO was bad before their cross server que. And honestly as someone pointed out, what community are you trying to protect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post

    Because even if I choose not to use it, it doesn't change the fact that it drastically reduces the number of intra-server groups formed and diminishes the sense of community within the server.
    you do know it will prob only be fore raids etc to give more people more chaces at doing them. Not everyone likes shouting for hours to get help or a team up to do a dungeon run. And not everyone plays in peek hours.
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    Server merge before Cross World grouping! IT will kill community for sure!!!

    I say NO!

    (_Fight and speak for not to copy/paste wow content!_)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    you do know it will prob only be fore raids etc to give more people more chaces at doing them. Not everyone likes shouting for hours to get help or a team up to do a dungeon run. And not everyone plays in peek hours.
    So you agree to everything that is casual but dislike everything you don't really enjoy? but you use most of your time on here more then 5hours talking on here that for sure. You do know you agreeing on something that would kill community for sure.

    I'm sorry but FFXI and FFXIV is about community not about sitting your lazy a@$ in city and waiting for a dungeon to happen. There so many cons about having it in FFXIV it better of if we just party with our own server. How many time do i log on ffxiv and see JP /sh for party to do leves but then again why don't i see any ENG players doing it? oh that right there just soloing or doing it with there linkshell then really party with others. That what we need to party with players on our world not only ls or friends. that how you build a community not by building a community you only going to see one time in a random dungeon.


    Am sorry i say no to this hands down bad idea even tho it sound like a good idea and i would enjoy it i think it would kill the community and ppl just be in town waiting for dungeon even if they get to party with ppl in your own server they wont /tell eachother to party this happen a lot in wow so i say no too this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostia View Post
    It is not SE Job to monitor and decide how the community behaves, also that should not be your concern, if people wanna ruin their own experience by using the system, that's their loss, why do you care how others play the game again ?

    Oh and no it wont kill intra-server groups, everybody would rather group with people they know and trust, than with strangers :P

    I hope you're not being serious.

    Of course it's SE's job to monitor the community and influence their behavior. Without limits, people push the bounds of decency, and many times break it completely. All you have to do is look to the internet to prove that. When people exploit the system, they aren't just hurting their experience, they're effecting others as well.

    This argument that "you don't have to use it if you don't want to" is an argument from ignorance. The plain fact it exists means it will effect the community as a whole, whether an individual uses it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltNixter View Post
    (_Fight and speak for not to copy/paste wow content!_)
    While true in some cases, I would not mind at all if they literally copied and pasted WoW's action bar, 'spell book', and macro system, line for line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostia View Post
    It is not SE Job to monitor and decide how the community behaves, also that should not be your concern, if people wanna ruin their own experience by using the system, that's their loss, why do you care how others play the game again ?

    Oh and no it wont kill intra-server groups, everybody would rather group with people they know and trust, than with strangers :P
    Because if they have the system we have to use it matter what because it's not like we can /sh most players wont even want to do it that way they just sit in the city and wait for a dungeon. I play wow and i /tell players who just did a dungeon with me and they said no and this happen many many times not only one time. So yes trust me players would like to just do random dungeon then players in there own world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    I hope you're not being serious.

    Of course it's SE's job to monitor the community and influence their behavior. Without limits, people push the bounds of decency, and many times break it completely. All you have to do is look to the internet to prove that. When people exploit the system, they aren't just hurting their experience, they're effecting others as well.

    This argument that "you don't have to use it if you don't want to" is an argument from ignorance. The plain fact it exists means it will effect the community as a whole, whether an individual uses it or not.
    SE job is to deliver a good fun game for people to play, as of yet that has not happened, that is their only job, it is not their job to be the community police, what you are suggesting is that SE needs to contemplate every single time they might add a feature into the game, how they will baby sit the community, for example if they where to add HNM, that could lead to camping, and selling kills, are you suggesting that SE not add HNM because some people will camp then to death, and not allow the others to fight them? how about people that sell kills and loot? did you forget the last time SE went out of their way to baby sit the community vs RMT and delivered a horrible trade system ??

    The community is the only one that can take care of the community, using wow as an example, as some people have done, is stupid, because the game mechanics and community are totally different, there is no change name, in this game, if i'm a ninja, i cant just change my name or make another toon, w/o loosing all the progress i have done here :/

    Whats next ? No pvp in any form, because that will lead to a bad community ? Woot there goes another chunk of the player base they could have tapped 8-)
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