Quote Originally Posted by Regdar View Post
Lots of talk over aero, stone 1 and 2 but what about aero 2 and holy? I couldn't play around with them in P4 since I was locked in 3102 land. Also does holy's stun cause diminishing effects on other stuns? Wish I tested this stuff in P3 even if it changed but never crossed my mind.
Aero II is worthless. It's as slow to cast as Stone II, deals less damage, can not perform complete critcals, and costs more MP (it use to, this may no longer be true).

Holy does have diminishing effects, but the damage is very high, especially with Cleric Stance. However, the MP was so severe in phase 3 I could only cast it a few times before running out of MP. I don't see WHM ever actually using this in combat seriously unless its power is exploitable with multiple WHM.

Quote Originally Posted by Regdar View Post
I had a couple occasions where having raise cross classed was useful, but that was in PUGs. I would rather see it changed and have items like the company tonics or phoenix downs become the gap filler for emergency raise rather than the spell though.
This is what I think as well. items would be much better suited for other classes that can be exchanged for GC seals or even Gil.

Also, if you were doing this in Dungeons, trust me, it didn't save you anything. It's quicker for the CNJ to return to the entrance with no weakness and simply take the shortcut back to your party.