Yoshida-san, Where's the Challenge? Where are the Real Changes? END GAME Content?

[Rentahamster]

Don't know if you were aware of this or not, but FFXI shipped in the US with it's first expansion, the JP players had no endgame content for the first six months. The truth is the game isn't quite ready for endgame content yet.

This is true, but that was 11 years ago.

This game was in development for 5 years. 5 years. And they had all the accumulated experience and knowledge from creating and running FF11, yet they couldn't transfer any of that knowledge into making FF14 a good game from the very beginning? What in the world were they doing for those 5 years, anyway?

I give SE the benefit of the doubt for the most part, but there had to have been some serious problems with efficiency and development for this game to have the problems that it has even though the very same company has been running a hugely successful MMO for the past 11 years.

They still have time to turn it around, but that time is running out fast.

If you need something to do, try fighting higher level mobs, explore, push your character to it's limits and beyond, that's what I've been doing. (been soloing mobs 10-12 levels higher than me.)

The problem with that, is that those of us who have stuck it out since launch have done pretty much everything there is to do in this game.

[Kiara]

It's not a problem, things take time, you can't avoid this. If it's going to take awhile to redo something rooted into the foundation, time can't be shortened unless you want to cut corners or not redo it to the best of your abilities, otherwise video games in general would take only a month or two to create if it was easy to whip something good together just like that.

So all in all, it seems like this letter is saying you acknowledge it takes time, but it's a problem that it will take time. Rushing it out is the reason XIV was in the shape it was after all. They can start puttin in content for rank 50s, but what about rank 1-50? If you aren't captured when you start and the journey to end-game, you won't stay for the end-game content because you'll be bored and leave before then.

I'm sure end-game will be settled when they get the foundation redone, but the foundation and early-mid levels are just as important, if not more important because they don't want to necessarily build content ontop of a system that'll just no doubt change.

Hi Elexia,

Thanks for the reply! I agree... it's just frustrating is all. It's even sadder when you see so many friends leaving (even now, the ones that have stuck it out, one by one, I'm seeing more of them just move on).

I agree that the fundamental systems - the ones that capture the attention of Rank 1 -> 50 is more important than End Game Content, which is why I brought that up specifically as point #1 in my original post.

We need the core fundamental changes to Combat, making the Classes more Unique, etc., that's what's going to capture the attention of any potential new players and current players, and get people who left interested again (and new PS3 players).

I just worry about the "long term" words Yoshida-san has mentioned multiple times in various interviews / posts about these changes.

I know there are different sub-teams as he mentioned, but it feels like doing small tweaks, getting 20 Mid-Level NMs out for Patch 1.17, etc., aren't really tackling the fundamental issues with the game head-on.

[Majidah]

Hi Majidah, and All,

Oh don't get me wrong, I know the U.S. version of FF XI launched with the 1st Expansion Pack included, so Japan got to bear the brunt of the waiting and clean-up.

But as the years go on, is it "fine" to expect paying customers / players to wait, let's say, 1 year or 2 years for challenging, meaningful content as they get up in ranks?

I know it'll take time, and maybe it's just venting, but there's so little to do right now except try another Class and get that up to 50, and rinse and repeat. Guildleves and Crafting.

The other part of my post is precisely what you're mentioning also: I'm hoping to see the fundamental changes first and hopefully not in another year or 2.

Hi Kiara :3

Well, to put things into perspective and give a glimpse in how far off xiv is... it was released with no way to sort your inventory. This game is to be considered in beta stage until they start charging. Specially because there will be some game changing updates.

I'm giving XIV a year to develop before expecting anything from it.

[viion]

Its in another game

[BloodLotus]

This question has been answered repeatedly and it's not the generic answer you think it is.

If you spent as much time using the search option as you did writing out your post you probably would have found the answer.

/fume

[zaviermhigo]

I wish they had learned at least something....anything...from FFXI. /facepalm

[Drex]

From now on when ever someone says "Content for Hardcore players" I'm going to ignore everything they say.

then do it...

[Drex]

the "Hardcore" population of any game is usually under 10%, and they tend to leave as soon as something happens they don't agree with or another game peaks their interest as a chance to be better then everyone else from the start all over again.

In my opinion, their opinion is completely unnecessary in todays game environment as they wont even stay long enough to participate in the content they demand most of the time.

You are so sure about that, but is clear that you dont know what you are talking about...

but its understandable, many ppl in our modern society have this kind of problem...

think that only their point of wiew is right....

Hardcore players try to put some idea they like in a game, like all other players...

would you "casual" play a game that you dont like?? would you stay or would you pass to another game??

your arguments are so silly that makes me lol on so many lvs....but sadly you are not the only one...

Jeez... I always wonder why in the hell you guys are so damn scared about those "hardcore content", we can have both, you can always choose what to do....

you want a relic, then you will have to work hard.... if you dont want it, since there are other things to do, none force you to get it...

its like a damn ferrari, not all can have one, but none pretend that all ferrari should cost 10.000 dollars or taken away from market because its an "hardcore" car....

its a childish thought...

[Black_Rose]

as much as i wish we'd get new content allready, i still wish to get fixes first.
every time we get content before the core elements aren't fixed, we'll need a rebalance afterwards.
and the rebalance will then again need a balance to get rebalanced.

[Jinko]

I'd take the real, core, fundamental changes to the Combat System as you talked about after the Player's Poll, over another 20 mid-level NMs like the ones in Patch 1.17.

If you understood game development you would know that you don't have the whole team working on one specific part of the game, its obvious the team working on the NM's had a lot less work than the battle system team and that is why we got them before.

as much as i wish we'd get new content allready,

We did get new content, NM's and more side quests, try them out sometime you might surprise yourself how fun they are.