Feel like you deserve Legacy? Help me help us.

[Neasa]

When the game went P2P, I was already burned out and up-to-date on the content... Paying for it seemed silly, so I left. I returned with two months to go of possible billing, and I didn't even know about the "Legacy" thing until after billing had stopped.
I didn't get a single E-mail about "Legacy" benefits, despite people saying they were sent out. I didn't bother checking Lodestone for info around that time for a game I wasn't even playing. Yet here I am, not crying about, and neither should anyone else. I just don't see why people can't let it go, especially by now. SE is not changing anything.

[SkyeWindbinder]

SHUT.

UP.

On a serious note though, not cool. This is a person new to our community. Way to make our place seem welcoming. -_-

[Rannie]

I'm so glad there are people that still post constructively. (fuschia and italics work as a good sarcasm font?)

OP has already come to the realization that they're not going to obtain legacy, but you don't see OP flaming you guys for not feeling the same way they do.
I know the subject has been beaten to death in the past but let's take the high road for once guys, because posts like this only make you look bad.

yeah but remember dear friend nix... it's called people don't read the whole thread and have a knee jerk reaction to the post... Lol reminds me kind of the whole Gil Reduction Thread and some others

[SkyeWindbinder]

Let's see...

People knew how to get Legacy. It was spelled out very, very clearly many times by Square Enix.

We all knew we had to pay for at least 3 months of subscription in the short time that was available.

Those who did that, got Legacy. Those who chose to abandon the game, did not get Legacy.

If you didn't end up qualifying for it, it's YOUR OWN FAULT. Too late to cry about it now.

I'm sick of seeing these ridiculous entitlement threads.

^^See OP, it's people like these that are the exception to our community. Most of us are polite, welcoming, and understanding. But you get the odd kid in here and, well, you know how it goes.

[Ramesses]

Yeah I agree with what Yucie just said above... and to be honest, once I read the first three replies made by Tamaroe, Nix and Duuude00007, I just skipped to the last page to support what they posted. Been very exasperated with these types of threads but I wanted to respond because the OP presented the question in a decent manner.

Do I deserve Legacy? Absolutely... and its not just because I played since 1.0 Beta.... its because also there were those all over the world who actually believed in this game.

Time and time and time again people were begged to come back, to try the game and offer input on what they thought could make it better... and not that many seemed to heed the call. Yoshi and his Team have been writing Live letters and sending us email updates about the Legacy status for the best part 18 months. Let me even back up a little and explain some additional details...

In January 2011, the Dev Team emailed everyone asking for the first players poll on how to make the game better. This became the first of a series of polls that players participated in (most of whom consisted of the current Legacy players). We polled, we offered criticism, suggestions, ideas, and gave feedback every time there was a version update on 1.0.

Then in October 2011, Yoshi and the rest of SE laid out their future plans for 2.0, their upcoming welcome back campaigns and they clearly spread the word via email at least FOUR times that I'm aware of. Also, every major gaming website reported it and that Road-map PDF was virtually on every FFXIV related fan blog on the internet. After that, they sent very clear plans on how they wanted to commence billing (and amazingly enough I think the player base actually increased by 13% to 15%, which showed approval with how the game was getting better)

So yeah... I shall be very civic and polite in expressing that myself and EVERY Legacy player indeed deserve all the goodness that SE have given us. Yes we do.

[Yucie]

^^See OP, it's people like these that are the exception to our community. Most of us are polite, welcoming, and understanding. But you get the odd kid in here and, well, you know how it goes.

I didn't bother reading the OP for a very specific reason; it doesn't matter how courteous he is, or how sensible he appears to be at first glance..

The fact of the matter is, these threads are too innumerable, and the core argument of each thread is the same at their very essence. I want Legacy because x, blah blah blah. It's annoying to read these kinds of threads over and over.. Especially on the forums that SE isn't paying any real amount of attention to anymore, with the beta-tester forum filling with new people each week. That's where the feedback is, and that's where it really matters.

People complaining and/or commenting on the fact they don't have Legacy, when they feel they should, is just a waste of thread; you could easily post in an entirely new thread.

[SkyeWindbinder]

I didn't bother reading the OP for a very specific reason; it doesn't matter how courteous he is, or how sensible he appears to be at first glance..

The fact of the matter is, these threads are too innumerable, and the core argument of each thread is the same at their very essence. I want Legacy because x, blah blah blah. It's annoying to read these kinds of threads over and over.. Especially on the forums that SE isn't paying any real amount of attention to anymore, with the beta-tester forum filling with new people each week. That's where the feedback is, and that's where it really matters.

People complaining and/or commenting on the fact they don't have Legacy, when they feel they should, is just a waste of thread; you could easily post in an entirely new thread.

First of all, these threads are hardly as full of these kinds of posts as you and many others would like to make it seem they are. Secondly, who cares? This is someone new to the community. Forgive them if they are not exactly experts at the so-called etiquette that you and a bunch of others have for the threads (as if we need back-seat mods). So how about just chilling out instead of being so fast to jump down someone's throat? The only real standard that should really be set, if any, is to be courteous and welcoming to new members. And your post was anything but.

[Yucie]

First of all, these threads are hardly as full of these kinds of posts as you and many others would like to make it seem they are. Secondly, who cares? This is someone new to the community. Forgive them if they are not exactly experts at the so-called etiquette that you and a bunch of others have for the threads (as if we need back-seat mods). So how about just chilling out instead of being so fast to jump down someone's throat? The only real standard that should really be set, if any, is to be courteous and welcoming to new members. And your post was anything but.

Those threads are anything but? Feel free to check any of the old threads here or on the tester's forum of new testers pissing and moaning they didn't get Legacy, plus all the hate for people who did. XD Lol.

[Yrusama]

Well, I'm glad I won't lose it then =D

I was expecting hard truths and I know how to ignore trolls but your wasn't trolling. I understand now the reasons for the promotion (funding) and honestly didn't remember only paying 1 month before it went free until they worked all the kinks out (original release). The money was never really an issue. I'm sure I received the original e-mail about Legacy but probably ignored it because I was still burned out from the hours and hours of grinding out crafts. I returned because my friend was playing again and I love FF. I had no issues with paying again and was unaware of how much I had spent or for how long on the second go around. I did the math and found out I was subscribed for 92 days (on the second go) so I started the research on why I wasn't Legacy.

If I would have known it was for funding the re-release I wouldn't have had a problem paying them for 3 months even in September.

I'm glad I made the post even with all the heat it brought on because now I know.

And knowing is half the battle....GI JOOOOOE!

All in all, I'd say this thread went pretty well. People might have been pretty negative, but at least they were thorough in their explanations, and the OP has come to understand the full situation.

Ouchmaker, you seem like a reasonable person. I hope you stick with the game, even though you didn't make Legacy. The player base needs more people like you.

Edit: On a side note, does anyone else think the SE support guy is trolling us by suggesting a person make ANOTHER Legacy thread? I mean, seriously.

[SkyeWindbinder]

Those threads are anything but? Feel free to check any of the old threads here or on the tester's forum of new testers pissing and moaning they didn't get Legacy, plus all the hate for people who did. XD Lol.

Well, on these forums, I'd have to dig pretty deep to find them I'm sure, since none of them are hardly on the first or even second page. But then again, even so, you seem to be missing the point. Not surprising. lol