Is the water that bad?

[gifthorse]

I agree but somehow the water at the R20 fishing leve points in the black shroud for example look amazing, I don't understand why the other areas don't.

I think it's only "amazing" because they applied an extra texture to it (a mottled green and shadow texture to represent reflection of trees). It's still the same in all other zones, the crappiness of the water is just disguised better in Black Shroud for some reason.

Compared to a game like this, FFXIV is below the curve. Im sorry but it's true.