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    Is the water that bad?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUgw3cfEGfE
    (Watch in 1080p to get the full effect)

    I made this video to illustrate a couple things...

    1. Copy/paste environments aside... The Black Shroud isn't that bad....
    I don't mind maze like areas.... And I don't even see a need for a redesign
    It's visually stunning... More landmarks and objects added would make a more immersing environment but overall I think The Shroud is well done....

    2. What don't people like about the water? It looks fine to me.. it moves.. has waves.. is semi-transparent and is reflective.... that's water, right?
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    I think the major complaint isn't the water from areas like Gridania, its the water around areas like Limsa and on the Boatferry to/from Limsa.

    Limsas water is actually really rough so you can't see into it and it looks stale against the rocks but it does look real. when you look at it in the right areas. The waves need to to be more impressive I think.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Agh! It hurts my eyes dear god turn it off!!

    Seriously though if I can find the sights of XI still beautiful then XIV water doesn't have anything to worry about.

    They just need better visual design and identity for their environments. That forest could be from any game/movie/real world ever made and that's why people get hung up on details.

    I've never heard anyone say "Tele-Holla doesn't look ceramic enough! BRAARH!"
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    I love it. I think FFXIV has brilliant environmental visuals. Granted, I hate the Black Shroud as much as anyone, I just wish the cities and the clothes looked like Final Fantasy. It's all too plain. Ul'Dah only has three colors:brown, orange-brown and dark brown.
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    I love the water in the black shroud. If only it were sunnier there!

    (sorry to plug my petition into this, I like! Your thread though)

    I agree that the ferry ride looks like crap
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    Sorry but the water in this game is pretty unacceptable. And I'm not just saying that to be a dick. It's true! Take note next time you're on the boat or in Limsa. It's just terrible. Even in Coerthas you can't look at it for very long without becoming disenchanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Sorry but the water in this game is pretty unacceptable. And I'm not just saying that to be a dick. It's true! Take note next time you're on the boat or in Limsa. It's just terrible. Even in Coerthas you can't look at it for very long without becoming disenchanted.
    I agree but somehow the water at the R20 fishing leve points in the black shroud for example look amazing, I don't understand why the other areas don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alzelia View Post
    I agree but somehow the water at the R20 fishing leve points in the black shroud for example look amazing, I don't understand why the other areas don't.
    I think it's only "amazing" because they applied an extra texture to it (a mottled green and shadow texture to represent reflection of trees). It's still the same in all other zones, the crappiness of the water is just disguised better in Black Shroud for some reason.

    Compared to a game like this, FFXIV is below the curve. Im sorry but it's true.
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    Last edited by gifthorse; 04-21-2011 at 03:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    I think it's only amazing because they applied an extra texture to it (a mottled green and shadow texture to represent reflection of trees). It's still the same in all other zones, it's just disguised better in Black Shroud for some reason.

    Compared to a game like this, FFXIV is below the curve. Im sorry but it's true.
    Anyone got a video link of well done water? I'm anxious to see this now...
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    I guess that I would definatetly approve of better water graphics, I would prefer more optimization of the graphics first, so my computer could handle it better.
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