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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    Tad bit disappointed he told the guy "shut up" who tried to ask him something, while he was playing.
    When you work in the industry, you should learn to deal with people asking you questions and not tell them to "shut up".
    You say "Please excuse me I am busy".

    Yea the guy was dumb for bugging him while he was playing but Yoshi should handle himself better than that.

    You will never hear me tell one of my team members to "Shut up".
    But I would say "Please be quiet, keeps coms discipline, let's win this"

    But of course everyone will defend Yoshi their hero..
    Sorry but I'm gonna have to defend Yoshi-P here after going back and watching the video. Please don't just assume it's cause Yoshi-P is MY HERO. I think you've completely misunderstood the context of the video and frankly it's unfair to Yoshi-P.

    The announcer (NA SE community manager, forget his exact title) asked Fernhawles (SE Localization team/translator and forum rep) to get Yoshi-P to give a comment while he was fighting Ifrit. Yoshi-P responded by saying "Shut up, I'm playing the game." I believe he said it as a joke between co-workers, not as a rude f u to a random guy for bothering him. Yeah, Fernhawles could've easily translated it as "Please excuse me, I'm busy" but he chose to translate as "Shut up" for comical effect. Notice how the announcers laughed? This is TOTALLY different than what I thought happened based on reading your post, in which I imagined a reporter or fan trying to ask him something and Yoshi-P rudely blowing him off by telling him to shut up.

    I understand that when taken out of context, someone saying "Shut up, I'm busy playing" can be seen as incredibly rude. But please try to look at the context of the comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaMuiSouZou View Post
    Sorry but I'm gonna have to defend Yoshi-P here after going back and watching the video. Please don't just assume it's cause Yoshi-P is MY HERO. I think you've completely misunderstood the context of the video and frankly it's unfair to Yoshi-P.

    The announcer (NA SE community manager, forget his exact title) asked Fernhawles (SE Localization team/translator and forum rep) to get Yoshi-P to give a comment while he was fighting Ifrit. Yoshi-P responded by saying "Shut up, I'm playing the game." I believe he said it as a joke between co-workers, not as a rude f u to a random guy for bothering him. Yeah, Fernhawles could've easily translated it as "Please excuse me, I'm busy" but he chose to translate as "Shut up" for comical effect. Notice how the announcers laughed? This is TOTALLY different than what I thought happened based on reading your post, in which I imagined a reporter or fan trying to ask him something and Yoshi-P rudely blowing him off by telling him to shut up.

    I understand that when taken out of context, someone saying "Shut up, I'm busy playing" can be seen as incredibly rude. But please try to look at the context of the comment.
    At first I was like "That's effed up!" until I saw it was Ferne and then I was like "Oh.."

    And this folks is how misunderstandings on the internet happen.
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    Hmm... bringing in enemies from FFXII.

    I'd like to see these wandering about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    Hmm... bringing in enemies from FFXII.

    I'd like to see these wandering about
    ... Giza Rabbit Minion (Can I have it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    ... Giza Rabbit Minion (Can I have it)
    Yes! That too
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaMuiSouZou View Post
    Sorry but I'm gonna have to defend Yoshi-P here after going back and watching the video. Please don't just assume it's cause Yoshi-P is MY HERO. I think you've completely misunderstood the context of the video and frankly it's unfair to Yoshi-P.

    The announcer (NA SE community manager, forget his exact title) asked Fernhawles (SE Localization team/translator and forum rep) to get Yoshi-P to give a comment while he was fighting Ifrit. Yoshi-P responded by saying "Shut up, I'm playing the game." I believe he said it as a joke between co-workers, not as a rude f u to a random guy for bothering him. Yeah, Fernhawles could've easily translated it as "Please excuse me, I'm busy" but he chose to translate as "Shut up" for comical effect. Notice how the announcers laughed? This is TOTALLY different than what I thought happened based on reading your post, in which I imagined a reporter or fan trying to ask him something and Yoshi-P rudely blowing him off by telling him to shut up.

    I understand that when taken out of context, someone saying "Shut up, I'm busy playing" can be seen as incredibly rude. But please try to look at the context of the comment.
    Yeah, after watching it and seeing it all in context, it was all in jest. They're asking him to give commentary as in "Hey... while you're busy trying to not die... want to give some commentary on the fight?"

    They continued joking about it after that.

    I joke around with co-workers, including my bosses (and they with me) like that all the time. My boss will need to get past me and be like "Get the hell out of my way...". All in fun.

    And that's not me "defending Yoshi". To "defend" someone implies they've done something wrong that needs defending. I don't believe that's the case here. It was friendly banter/joking around with co-workers and all in fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    Ah thanks for clarifying.


    If anything, Solace, you should be mad at Fernehalwes for putting words in Yoshi's mouth. Because that's pretty much what he did. But even that is taking it way out of context.

    Also, one stray joke made in a video and you make a post saying Yoshi's the worst because he's no longer immaculate, he's just like any other. It sounds to me like you're the one putting him up on a pedastal, here.
    I may very well be in that case.
    I trust the words of the translator. He speaks very fluent English.
    He said "shut up".
    He should of chosen his words more wisely if he was not in fact told to "shut up".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    I may very well be in that case.
    I trust the words of the translator. He speaks very fluent English.
    He said "shut up".
    He should of chosen his words more wisely if he was not in fact told to "shut up".
    Even though translation takes a lot of thinking about context, localisation etc. and this was spoken quickly in what seems as a joke

    FOR EXAMPLE:

    Urusai in Japanese basically means the equivalent of 'noisy' but is often translated to 'shut up' as it would be weird in an English context to yell the word noisy at people.

    Language is a wonderfully fluid thing. Don't trust everything you read and don't trust a translators words implicitly, ESPECIALLY when you know nothing of the context of the situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    I may very well be in that case.
    I trust the words of the translator. He speaks very fluent English.
    He said "shut up".
    He should of chosen his words more wisely if he was not in fact told to "shut up".
    You're continuing to assume it was said in a serious manner, while ignoring the setting and context it happened in.

    Consider this...
    If the statement was intended specifically for the translator - whom asked Yoshi-P the question in the first place - and was said in a scornful or disrespectful way, why would he then turn around and repeat it to the other guys, while laughing/joking about it? When he tells the other guys, one says, jokingly "Sounds about right".

    I watched the same video as you, I saw the same part as you and even watched it a few times just to make sure I caught everything that happened. There was nothing wrong with that exchange. It was all in fun.

    You're projecting your own standards/sensitivities on to others, and then judging them accordingly. Not exactly reasonable.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 06-18-2013 at 03:36 AM.

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    EDIT: should get back on topic
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    Last edited by gahoo; 06-18-2013 at 04:12 AM.

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