Why so adamant on keeping the Market Place?

[Mack]

The AH and MW systems are basically one in the same now, the MW system is only lacking 2 aspects that a general AH system has, bidding and buying from search and a delivery system.

In this case you're still saying the AH is more convenient. For me, it has nothing to do with convenience or that I hate the MW so much I wanna see it gone, and it has more to do with why? They're basically overhauling the game so why not the MW, its not like an AH is gonna take the longest to setup and you all know that people will always complain about no AH - there's new topics everywhere popping up on this subject, "Is there an AH yet?" for some people it matters, so since the MW is "exactly" like an AH but less convenient, why not make it an AH? I just wanna know why they're holding on so dearly.

[Abriael]

They're basically overhauling the game so why not the MW

Because "overhauling the game" takes a lot of resources, and it's silly to use even more resources to create a whole new system in place of one that works well just because some people are so morbidly attached to a system present in other games that they cannot even fathom the viability of an altrnative?

[BlaiseLallaise]

What's wrong with having choices? I like the AH system but I like the Market Place too, having both would be pretty sweet. One would end up being more needs specific I imagine.

I don't think they can live together in harmony. I'm afraid that if both existed, one would eventually squeeze the other to death. The way the wards are now, as others have said, it's almost exactly what an AH would be, so there is little need to have them both. For these reasons, I believe that one or the other is the way to go.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

then why want to replace MW with AH when MW is doing fine and all? maybe can make a central MW? or linked MW? O_O that would be pretty awesome lol

[Mack]

1. The system as it is currently prevents harassment for players when they put items up for sale.

Because it hides their names? Its not like its hard coded into every AH that the player's name must show up, not a good enough excuse.

2. It doesn't have an arbitrary "Wait 7 days" mechanic to buy the item or fight over the item.

What?? explain, I don't remember having to wait 7 days for anything.

3. Blind Auctions are a waste of time, Why stand around bid fighting with a blank door to be told "bid refused for an hour because someone put up the blind auction well over what the history suggests for that item.

But running from retainer to retainer to another ward to retainer to another ward is time well spent?

4. History. It was abused constantly by RMT's. They'd buy up all the items for a certain item they could then resell them to themselves over and over until they got the history to look like the item was worth more or less then normal, then profit off it.

This I can see as legitimate but FFXIV has done many things to stop RMTs and have forgotten the playerbase. Look at Gathering for instance, its done the way it is to prevent botting, they also put a limit on it (i.e., can't gather any items after your pool has run out)...but what about the players who really enjoy fishing for instance? its stupid "preventing RMT" by punishing the playerbase. All I'm saying is there must be a better way than this.

5. The Search Feature Works.

It works but it will always be less convenient and you will always be walking into a zombie fest....nothing cool about and from our perspective nothing better about it than AH.

6. Marketwards actually take less time to use now then an AH did in XI in my opinion.

How so?

[Arcell]

But running from retainer to retainer to another ward to retainer to another ward is time well spent?

You mean running to THE retainer that has the item you want because you took the time to make note of the name and ward the retainer is in. Looking for a big pink star isn't hard.

[Mack]

Because "overhauling the game" takes a lot of resources, and it's silly to use even more resources to create a whole new system in place of one that works well just because some people are so morbidly attached to a system present in other games that they cannot even fathom the viability of an altrnative?

How is it any different than what they're doing now? the reason I started this topic is because they're constantly working on improving the MW, meaning they already have resources associated with it - it doesn't take a 100 people to code an AH.

[Mack]

You mean running to THE retainer that has the item you want because you took the time to make note of the name and ward the retainer is in. Looking for a big pink star isn't hard.

Right, and when I want another item I have to run to the door, search for it, warp, run to another retainer. Do you want me to fill all the in betweens for you? why are you getting so upset here, I'm asking a simple question that SE still hasn't answered and its because the answer is "we want more money from you".

[Abriael]

How is it any different than what they're doing now? the reason I started this topic is because they're constantly working on improving the MW, meaning they already have resources associated with it - it doesn't take a 100 people to code an AH.

First of all, you don't know what kind of resources are needed to code and test an AH. Secondly, it's normally much easier,less resources-intensive, not to mention smarter to improve over pre-existing systems that work well, instead of scrapping them and just creating new ones from scratch.

It's an elementary notion, really.

[Arcell]

Right, and when I want another item I have to run to the door, search for it, warp, run to another retainer. Do you want me to fill all the in betweens for you? why are you getting so upset here, I'm asking a simple question that SE still hasn't answered and its because the answer is "we want more money from you".

With the item search feature in place now I can buy an entire set of gear for any class in less than 10 minutes. I don't see a problem with the system as it is now. Sure it may not take tons of resources to develop but the fact of the matter is that team could be working on something else instead of replacing a fully functional system.