Power supply for 25.00. Sketchy, much?

[Shura]

UPDATE ~

I think my harddrive is dying
>. < it's started randomly making some crazy clicking sounds today so running a checkdisk which is taking forEVER (posting from phone) but placed an order for new HDD anyway it can't hurt ... its almost 4 yrs old...and I can clone/make backup. Rather deal with this now during beta-downtime!

Checked out the manufacturer website page for the H60 and although it did say no maintenance, I was just too scared of liquid to order so ordered the Dark Knight.

How y'all doin'?

Hey JillyBean, sorry i didn't reply sooner, was out of town all week and just got back today; also your PC looks great, thanks for the pics. In regards to the closed loop liquid coolers, i say liquid and not water because it uses a special liquid in the loop as opposed to water. The closed loop coolers have no extra maintenance other then blowing the dust off the fans, which you would do for air coolers anyway. I forget if the dark knight comes with 1 fan or 2, if it supports 2, i would get an extra one and put it in a push pull setup for better temps.

It does sound like your HDD is about to go, if you have an external drive, i would recommend backing up your stuff while you wait for the new one to come; if you don't mind me asking, which exact drive did you order?

In case you want to consider Liquid coolers in the future, I'm currently in the process of upgrading 3 PCs with new model closed loop liquid coolers, I'll post some pics when its done, later this week.

[JillyBean]

Hey JillyBean, sorry i didn't reply sooner, was out of town all week and just got back today; also your PC looks great, thanks for the pics. In regards to the closed loop liquid coolers, i say liquid and not water because it uses a special liquid in the loop as opposed to water. The closed loop coolers have no extra maintenance other then blowing the dust off the fans, which you would do for air coolers anyway. I forget if the dark knight comes with 1 fan or 2, if it supports 2, i would get an extra one and put it in a push pull setup for better temps.

It does sound like your HDD is about to go, if you have an external drive, i would recommend backing up your stuff while you wait for the new one to come; if you don't mind me asking, which exact drive did you order?

In case you want to consider Liquid coolers in the future, I'm currently in the process of upgrading 3 PCs with new model closed loop liquid coolers, I'll post some pics when its done, later this week.

This is the Hard drive I ordered: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148321

It is exactly the same as the one I have, except 32 cache (I guess you can't buy 16 cache anymore). I just wanted to replace it as close to the original so I knew it would work. Hopefully I did good.

Another thing, my pc takes a bit to load (currently havent heard the noises much today or yesterday) like the background color comes up first, just blank. Then my wallpaper loads. Then 30 sec later the bottom tray icons. Then finally after a minute or so the desktop icons. Is this also a symptom of HD failure? That has been going on, on-and-off, for a while now. But the other day on the weekend, when I woke my computer from sleep mode, it made these loud clicking noises. Right now it's quiet, but I want to be ready.

I don't have an external drive, although I did look at them, they seem pricey and I wasn't sure what to order. I'm interested though, if you have any recommendations.

I do have a backup that windows has you make on a 32gb flashdrive. It fills almost the whole flashdrive. I also made a boot disc. I don't know if that would help in a pinch or not. Worse comes to worse, if this drive fails before the other arrives, and I'm unable to clone it (using this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v00NlnZazkM) then I will just have to reinstall windows from scratch on the new HD. I'm gong to turn on my pc as little as possible until then.

Feel free to give any additional links or info I might need. Thanks again!

[JillyBean]

Forgot to say the Dark Knight comes with one fan. I probably would have ordered a 2nd fan if it was obvious which one to order. Also, I wasn't 100% sure I had room for it. It's definitely something I want to do, though.

[JillyBean]

This is the Hard drive I ordered: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148321

It is exactly the same as the one I have, except 32 cache (I guess you can't buy 16 cache anymore). I just wanted to replace it as close to the original so I knew it would work. Hopefully I did good.

Another thing, my pc takes a bit to load (currently havent heard the noises much today or yesterday) like the background color comes up first, just blank. Then my wallpaper loads. Then 30 sec later the bottom tray icons. Then finally after a minute or so the desktop icons. Is this also a symptom of HD failure? That has been going on, on-and-off, for a while now. But the other day on the weekend, when I woke my computer from sleep mode, it made these loud clicking noises. Right now it's quiet, but I want to be ready.

I don't have an external drive, although I did look at them, they seem pricey and I wasn't sure what to order. I'm interested though, if you have any recommendations.

I do have a backup that windows has you make on a 32gb flashdrive. It fills almost the whole flashdrive. I also made a boot disc. I don't know if that would help in a pinch or not. Worse comes to worse, if this drive fails before the other arrives, and I'm unable to clone it (using this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v00NlnZazkM) then I will just have to reinstall windows from scratch on the new HD. I'm gong to turn on my pc as little as possible until then.

Feel free to give any additional links or info I might need. Thanks again!

Bump^^

New HD arrived so probably going to try to do the clone tonight. .. hopefully I'm ok on the HD ordered (the only difference being 32 cache)... my current HD hasn't made any noise since the weekend... knock knock knock. .. wish me luck and pls post if there's anything you think would help or that I should know ... thanks

[JillyBean]

OK! Back again. HD cloned/installed/replaced. When it came in the mail yesterday, I panicked because it didn't have the same specs that I had ordered. My "old" HD was 1 TB - 7200RPM SATA 3.0 Gp/s 16MB Cache, the NEW one I ordered was listed with the exact same specs, except with 32 MB cache. Then, THIS came in the mail...





which as you can see is 1TB, 7200RPM, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB cache


Long story short, it worked, idk if it's using it's "backward compatibility" to use 3 GB/s or not, but it works. You guys will probably tell me I could have ordered an even better/faster HD, idk, but my goal was to get a new one in there to protect my situation ASAP. ^^

Lots of trial and error (and help from my teenage son). It was easy to install/clone. The tricky parts were getting it to show up in "my computer" to clone (assigning it a letter drive, my son did that!) and then getting it to boot from the new drive (had to repair windows from the disc, the boot manager was "missing"). Anyway, all done, again, for now... and the Dark Knight cooler is here but couldn't get involved in that until I knew I had a working computer/harddrive lol. The old drive is now out and saved in the non-static plastic as a half-way decent backup (it never did "fail").

/exhale

[Coris]

OK! Back again. HD cloned/installed/replaced. When it came in the mail yesterday, I panicked because it didn't have the same specs that I had ordered. My "old" HD was 1 TB - 7200RPM SATA 3.0 Gp/s 16MB Cache, the NEW one I ordered was listed with the exact same specs, except with 32 MB cache. Then, THIS came in the mail...

-snip-

which as you can see is 1TB, 7200RPM, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB cache


Long story short, it worked, idk if it's using it's "backward compatibility" to use 3 GB/s or not, but it works. You guys will probably tell me I could have ordered an even better/faster HD, idk, but my goal was to get a new one in there to protect my situation ASAP. ^^

Lots of trial and error (and help from my teenage son). It was easy to install/clone. The tricky parts were getting it to show up in "my computer" to clone (assigning it a letter drive, my son did that!) and then getting it to boot from the new drive (had to repair windows from the disc, the boot manager was "missing"). Anyway, all done, again, for now... and the Dark Knight cooler is here but couldn't get involved in that until I knew I had a working computer/harddrive lol. The old drive is now out and saved in the non-static plastic as a half-way decent backup (it never did "fail").

/exhale

The 6 Gb/s and 64MB are just the 'updated'/'newer' versions to your old HDD. I am using both a 6Gb/s SSD and HDD on a 3Gb/s Motherboard and it works too. It really uses its backward compability ^^
In terms of the "faster" HDD, 7200rpm is the standard speed for normal desktop HDDs. Notebooks mostly have 5400rpm ones and HDDs especially for servers go up to 15.000rpm. So it's perfectly fine what you bought.

Now a sentence from the German HDD-Wikipedia page, which Google Translate translated for me since the English Wikipedia page doesn't even have the word "cache" in it:

In addition, the hard drive electronics have a cache (Since 2012: drives of 1-2 TB usually have 32 or 64 MiB), which serves to decouple the interface transfer rate of the steady transfer rate the of read-write head.

If I am not mistaken (and for what I understood), a bigger cache helps the read-write head of each HDD out, so it's not a bad thing ^^

[Shura]

OK! Back again. HD cloned/installed/replaced. When it came in the mail yesterday, I panicked because it didn't have the same specs that I had ordered. My "old" HD was 1 TB - 7200RPM SATA 3.0 Gp/s 16MB Cache, the NEW one I ordered was listed with the exact same specs, except with 32 MB cache. Then, THIS came in the mail...





which as you can see is 1TB, 7200RPM, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB cache


Long story short, it worked, idk if it's using it's "backward compatibility" to use 3 GB/s or not, but it works. You guys will probably tell me I could have ordered an even better/faster HD, idk, but my goal was to get a new one in there to protect my situation ASAP. ^^

Lots of trial and error (and help from my teenage son). It was easy to install/clone. The tricky parts were getting it to show up in "my computer" to clone (assigning it a letter drive, my son did that!) and then getting it to boot from the new drive (had to repair windows from the disc, the boot manager was "missing"). Anyway, all done, again, for now... and the Dark Knight cooler is here but couldn't get involved in that until I knew I had a working computer/harddrive lol. The old drive is now out and saved in the non-static plastic as a half-way decent backup (it never did "fail").

/exhale

Glad to hear you got your new drive up and running; the drive you got is better then the one you ordered so nothing to worry about. Indeed as Coris already mentioned, majority of sata 6gb drives will work with sata 3gb; only thing is max speed will be limited to 3gb. Sorry about the late replies, been doing some upgrades on my system so its been down for the last few days.

[JillyBean]

Hey guys, it's me again!

Wanted to report that I finally got that Dark Knight cooler in this weekend. I have to say, pretty impressive!! It has taken the temps down another 10 degrees C from the Rosewill pushpin. All in all, the difference now between the temps from the Dell installed cooler are 20-25C lower. I'm super happy! Idle temps are in the high 20s-32; ran the ARR benchmark for an hour, temps hovered around 38-42 and spiked up to 52. With whatever Dell had in there, it hovered in the 50s/60 and spiked at 74/75.

Forgot to take a pic of it in there! Maybe do that another time. Again, thanks to all the tech assistants here, especially Shura and Dahlmel.