Garuda has no qualms with Oschon

[Alaltus]

Whats more the Ixal seem the least compatible with an old tidbit i remember reading that the Beastmen were once friendly and welcome in the city states but were kicked out when the Garleans started their war. Maybe that was just Uldah. Back to the staff maybe those dirty rats have been making clink clink behind our backs...

[Momita]

Mumble... Ixal and Amal'jaa have some contacts with Eorzean... (like Main Story Line 1.0 where we have to speak with them for getting some shard to share with all)... So maybe we gifted them with the staffs of Oschon and Llymlaen (wind deity)

Or like moose say... they have stolen from Sharlayans, but still don't know what mean that symbols..

So for the info we have only Ixal using Staffs with Twelve's Symbols.. maybe there is a lore behind this and will be in 2.0 XD

[Anonymoose]

How in the world are the Kobolds able to wield them one-handedly, then?

They're short, but they're jacked. Low center of gravity and beefy arms go a long way, I guess.

Whats more the Ixal seem the least compatible with an old tidbit i remember reading that the Beastmen were once friendly and welcome in the city states but were kicked out when the Garleans started their war. Maybe that was just Uldah. Back to the staff maybe those dirty rats have been making clink clink behind our backs...

I think it might just be Ul'dah. Goblins and qiqirn are seen openly in Lominsa and sylphs are in Gridana all the time. The Ixal have been the enemy of Gridania for much longer. When digging for the year of the Lominsan echoes, I realized that most of the changes we see in the beastmen aren't a result of the summoning but the worship. The sylphs words of warning about summoning must primarily just be about demeanor.

From what I can gather, the Ixal were feathered and friendly long ago, but worship of Garuda led them astray from the wood's balance. She gave them the ability to thrive so unchecked that they were banished from the wood and, over time, this dependence on her took a sinister turn; they lost their feathers and flight capabilities over the generations. This might possibly have been a ploy from Garuda all along: giving them enough assistance for them to worship and depend on her, and then slowly degrading them in a way that they don't suspect she's the cause, thus making them even more likely to worship in hopes that she'd make them whole again. Either way, this desire to return to the skies makes them invent the dirigible a hundred and fifty years ago.

The Ixal have been the enemy of the Elementals, and thus the enemy of Gridania for a very, very long time. They didn't didn't get this paranoid, crazed, and violent until summoning her to this physical realm.

Maybe we gifted them with the staffs of Oschon and Llymlaen (wind deity) - Or like moose say... they have stolen from Sharlayans, but still don't know what mean that symbols...

The two possibilities I can see for how they got them are

(A) We gave them for trade, which seems like something stupid we'd do. "Here are the weapons you wanted. Also, I wonder if you have a moment to talk about your personal relationship with The Twelve, our lords and saviors. Come back to the light, my children."

OR

(B) They stole them from Hamlet raids. As Catapult pointed out, they've been in like this since at least the Hyrstmill defenses of 1.X (nice catch, btw), which means that they might not even be Sharlayan at all. Maybe Louisoix picked up a new weapon when he got here. Maybe the style is much older. Who knows.

Whatever the case, I doubt they made them. And I still don't understand why they'd still have them. Garuda threatened to disembowel all the things in vengeance for allowing Ifrit to be summoned. I doubt she'd be any kinder to blasphemous symbols in the hands of her followers.

[Yrusama]

Whats more the Ixal seem the least compatible with an old tidbit i remember reading that the Beastmen were once friendly and welcome in the city states but were kicked out when the Garleans started their war. Maybe that was just Uldah. Back to the staff maybe those dirty rats have been making clink clink behind our backs...

Damn those Qiqirn!

It's possible that the Ixal got the staffs from their victims and reverse-engineered them (... kind of funny to say about a stick). It also might be that the development team decided not to give these beastmen their own weapon designs, and those staffs looked best with the Ixal. Giving them the Wind-deity staffs was simply their way of staying elementally consistent. Would we be more confused if they all held symbols of Nophica, Rhalgr, or....Menphina? I can just imagine the conspiracy theories if they held Menphina, given it depicts Dalamud quite clearly.

[Momita]

Garuda is Llymlaen!



MIND BLOWN!

[Beowolf]

conjurers weild conjurers staffs :O my mind...it just poured out of my ears.

[Yrusama]

They're short, but they're jacked. Low center of gravity and beefy arms go a long way, I guess.

Lalafellin logic at its best.

[Yrusama]

It just dawned on me... doesn't Garuda hate the Ixal regardless? Pretty sure they're the people tragically forsaken by their god and stripped of their ability to fly. I'll have to look at the Lodestone introduction to her.

[Anonymoose]

It just dawned on me... doesn't Garuda hate the Ixal regardless? Pretty sure they're the people tragically forsaken by their god and stripped of their ability to fly. I'll have to look at the Lodestone introduction to her.

Even in this ancient time, the Ixal, feeling kinship with the creatures of the sky, revered Garuda as the Empress of Birds. During this age of prosperity the feathered beastmen flourished and multiplied, overflowing the borders of their territory. Their unchecked growth, however, angered the elementals, and the Ixal were cast out of the forest. The exiled birdmen, in search of a new place to roost, migrated en masse to the great canyon known as Xelphatol.

<...>

But the trials of the Ixal did not end with the loss of their home. Inexplicably, the young that hatched in the land of Xelphatol were born without certain feathers they needed to catch the wind. As generations came and went, the Ixal lost their ability to fly completely. All that remained to them was an insatiable hunger for the sky. The birdmen's invention of the dirigible 150 years ago is most like the culmination of this tragic history and their undiminished yearning to fly.

If the logic I'm working on is right, the beast tribes are unaware of how much indignation primals hold for living things, in general. It doesn't seem like Garuda was out to help or hurt them specifically, but perform whatever actions will lead to them being more likely to depend on, worship, and provide aether to her alone and remain entirely submissive. The wind giveth and the wind taketh away.

[Alaltus]

Maybe the lack of the Elemental's presence is to blame for the loss of their feathers? I wonder if there was a simillar tradition like the Padjal with the Ixali.