Should this game be tailored for Final Fantasy fans or MMO fans?

[Mishakai]

What's so difficult about making an MMO that is distinctly FF while still offering all the features that MMO players have grown acustom to over the last 10 years or so? I think the biggest issue is SE's unholy love affair with console systems. For single player FF games fine.. But for MMO's, it always seems that catering to the console crowd is done so at the expense of the PC crowd, and the majority of your MMO players are part of the PC crowd.

Just cut the PS3 version and change the focus of this game to PC only, code accordingly.

[gifthorse]

Reason they look at FFXI players is well we like the game, I know i show my wow players friend ffxi/ffxiv and there like ahhh no thanks. They just don't like hardest they want everything handed to them i play real wow and i can say this 80+% of wow players are full of it and 45% of them say it true. Blizzard don't care about there players only the $ they get and wow players can say it's true.

I loved ffxi because it was something hard it give me something to work on if FFXIV can do that for them then i'll play it for 6+years like i did for ffxi and that the reason i think they looking at ffxi players more.

This game isn't hard. Crafting is an effort, but everything is easy. The only difficulty associate with the game is that the easy things are boring, which makes them seem much harder than they are. Some of us here who dislike the game, speaking for myself, were the first on the server to get NM drops. I know i was the first to get tricornes and doublets, but I still see fault with it and I am not here to endorse returning it to FFXI, and many other people with R50s aren't either.

Most people from Hardcore Linkshells have quit for multiple reasons. A lack of content is one of those but also there is the addition that other games coming out at the moment offer far more in the fun-department than FFXIV does presently and FFXI before it.

If this game becomes the FFXI you love, then few will return for it. There is no reason that the good aspects of FFXI (such as its atmosphere and team spirit) can't coexist with additions made for people who demand more than the simplicity of that kind of game.

[Yumi_Hibiki]

This is possibly a more concise statement of what I'm saying. We shouldn't advocate that the Western playerbase be largely disregarded, simply because sometimes they jump when they're bored.

as i stated in my second post thats not what i meant and if it offended anyone i apologize.
also dont reduce my statement to the jumping alone (which IS annoying) there are many things from the "standard MMO" that are a bad idea to implement into ff14 in my opinion, PKing FOR EXAMPLE which would create a vastly different community mindset.

[Ostia]

Reason they look at FFXI players is well we like the game, I know i show my wow players friend ffxi/ffxiv and there like ahhh no thanks. They just don't like hardest they want everything handed to them i play real wow and i can say this 80+% of wow players are full of it and 45% of them say it true. Blizzard don't care about there players only the $ they get and wow players can say it's true.

I loved ffxi because it was something hard it give me something to work on if FFXIV can do that for them then i'll play it for 6+years like i did for ffxi and that the reason i think they looking at ffxi players more.

You do know there is nothing that can qualify as "HARD" in FFXIV right now right ?

Oh and FFXI Was not that hard, it was a stupidly slow paced game Grinding is not hard, camping named mobs is not hard, is annoying and out dated, sure it was kinda fun and whatever back in EQ day's but this is 2011, get on with the times

[trinta]

as i stated in my second post thats not what i meant and if it offended anyone i apologize.
also dont reduce my statement to the jumping alone (which IS annoying) there are many things from the "standard MMO" that are a bad idea to implement into ff14 in my opinion, PKing FOR EXAMPLE which would create a vastly different community mindset.

Well, I'm sure you can see where only giving one example leaves me no choice but to "reduce" your statement to that. My only other choices are to read your mind, or put words into your mouth. PvP is a completely different topic than a simple jump ability; I don't advocate PvP, but neither do I advocate putting a diminished value on the opinions of people who are in favor of it. If I did oversimplify your position, I also apologize.

[gifthorse]

as i stated in my second post thats not what i meant and if it offended anyone i apologize.
also dont reduce my statement to the jumping alone (which IS annoying) there are many things from the "standard MMO" that are a bad idea to implement into ff14 in my opinion, PKing FOR EXAMPLE which would create a vastly different community mindset.

It's true that PKing would create a different environment. One way to introduce an open PvP type system could be to include a new zone where there were no rules, so that while the rest of the game was entirely PvE, there could be an area where people wanting to PvP and such could be able to do so with consenting peers.

[Zenaku]

When i mean hardest is the fact that the game is not easy it does not show you have to play the game you have to go and look it up. FFXIV have noting hard sure but still need to get ppl to team up for guildleves if you want to get a good amount of SP before the leves reset. WoW players don't like teaming up so they end up soloing. But yes i wish FFXIV would have some hardest to the game give players that don't have time something to do but don't lack in giving other players who want something more hard.

I know in the zam interview they said they adding a 4 man stuff to do for players who don't have much time to play and it be pretty easy to do and they going to add 8 man events which would be more hard and would take time to do and you need to plan. If this is true then i would enjoy playing it.

[Verecund]

You do know there is nothing that can qualify as "HARD" in FFXIV right now right ?

Oh and FFXI Was not that hard, it was a stupidly slow paced game Grinding is not hard, camping named mobs is not hard, is annoying and out dated, sure it was kinda fun and whatever back in EQ day's but this is 2011, get on with the times

THANK YOU.

[Ostia]

When i mean hardest is the fact that the game is not easy it does not show you have to play the game you have to go and look it up. FFXIV have noting hard sure but still need to get ppl to team up for guildleves if you want to get a good amount of SP before the leves reset. WoW players don't like teaming up so they end up soloing. But yes i wish FFXIV would have some hardest to the game give players that don't have time something to do but don't lack in giving other players who want something more hard.

I know in the zam interview they said they adding a 4 man stuff to do for players who don't have much time to play and it be pretty easy to do and they going to add 8 man events which would be more hard and would take time to do and you need to plan. If this is true then i would enjoy playing it.

You are either insane or the fanboy is strong in you kiddo, FFXI WAS NOT HARD! You know what was hard in that game ? Getting a PARTY And having a game thats stupid hard where you need to go and look outside the game in order to understand said game is simply in lemon terms "IDIOTIC" .....

[zaviermhigo]

I agree with Zenaku, not just because we play FFXIV together and because of Selbina Pride. FFXI was hard..in comparison to other mmos..if you have only played xi that game isn't too hard I guess (I dont' know what world you live in but hey this is an opinion here)

At the birth of Aht Urghan XI still had some difficulty, XI now cakewalk. I mean I know someone who rerolled and got to 50 in 3 days now.

IMHO stupid people can't play xi and when I mean stupid, I mean strategically challenged. These people did exist in XI but the ls leader always told them what to do and they were the first to mess up. XIV is open to everyone of all intellectual levels (not sure if thats good or bad , but since theres no random grouping who cares) There more challenge in the Promy's then anything in XIV, and we're not counting solo things, BECAUSE I PLAY AN MMO TO PLAY WITH PEOPLE NOT SOLO.