Are they getting rid of the job system?

[Momita]

Problem Solved.



Added to Ignore List..

Good Job You are the first! So you beated even Rokien and Gath! At least they were funny :/

[Shougun]

I find the 1.0 system (it isn't impossible 2.0's changed slightly) rather imperfect begging for asymmetry and suffocation from freedom in any natural equilibrium while adding processes and variables too many for their return value.

Of course these are all imo, and beyond small tweaks you are 99.99999% likely to have no change to the system into 2.0. dealwithit.jpg XD

Its obvious this system can work, as it has. But I would be a liar to say I like it over other proposed job options like a FFT system- though it still offers choices unusual to the MMORPG realm compared to other popular games like WoW/GWs and so forth (where each character is stuck into a type and its derivative builds). Even in imperfection I like it over most other choices.

From what we know, class only abilities, class type only abilities, job only abilities, wands for WHM (tremor), staves for BLM (relic) probably other things I can't remember Yoshida is pushing to reduce the limitations of development on this particular system- the system will look better, but I cannot deny that feeling I get where it's packed with lots of duct tape lol.



So.. No they arent getting rid of it, yes I dont think its the best, it will look a little better (my guess from changes I've seen near the end of 1.0 and as well as announced things like class only abilities- carby != for summoner at least by official and unofficial wording and definitions if such wording was chosen appropriately (some class abilities dont have to go to jobs)).

[Denmo]

I have seen nothing to indicate that ClausL is doing anything other than trying to incite negativity in people (trolling). When he was given a sufficient answer, he chose to ignore it and continued to target the posts that were the most toxic (shame on all of you).

If you have any decency, people, please stop replying to his threads, and remember to follow forum guidelines, which he can report you for.

This reminds me very much of a certain series of posts that ended up being the same person, trying to troll people for fun. ClausL, if you're not in fact a troll, I appeal to your obvious intelligence and realize that you're not helping your situation.

However, I think you most definately are trolling.

[ClausL]

actually Carbuncle is an Arcanist summon, not a Summoner summon

which also supports my opinion:what's the point?

it's obvious that arcanist won't be able to branch off into anything BESIDES summoner, so why even separate them? It's just needlessly complicated

[SkyeWindbinder]

actually Carbuncle is an Arcanist summon, not a Summoner summon

which also supports my opinion:what's the point?

it's obvious that arcanist won't be able to branch off into anything BESIDES summoner, so why even separate them? It's just needlessly complicated

But... How do you know?

How do you know Arcanist won't be a requirement for Blue Mage or Red Mage down the line? I'd love to know where you're getting your sources, as well as your idea that your opinion = fact.

[Shougun]

actually Carbuncle is an Arcanist summon, not a Summoner summon

which always supports my opinion:what's the point?

it's obvious that arcanist won't be able to branch off into anything BESIDES summoner, so why even separate them? It's just needlessly complicated

That is what I said :P

Arcanist summon for Arcanist but not for Summoner.


Actually Arcanist could branch off into other things, he does have a large amount of dot spells and mechanics to revolve around them (so said in previous public announcements). Also there is nothing to say that carbuncle cant be used in other classes at the moment, perhaps a THM with a weak carby.. This is unlikely though.

The reason they likely separated summoner and carby if they worded correctly (because it is literal sense in their wording "instead of" meaning replacement of, meaning doesn't have) is because carbuncle adds mechanics and dynamics they want differently in summoner but they don't want to waste the experience of Arcanist as a class.

It would then be true this is an example of the system being forced to be asymmetric for best game play value. Yes.. but reworking the whole system could turn out to be worse and take many months to prepare properly.. You just are not going to see a new system come into place unless Yoshida goes into berserk mode. The cost and risk would be great, while in this system that isn't perfect it does work (just settle with being inconsistent and sometimes adding extra steps like adding classes just because you want to make the job, even though no one will use that class by itself).

[LlenCoram]

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Good Job You are the first! So you beated even Rokien and Gath! At least they were funny :/

First! Congrats! I think I'm up to 60 or 70 now.

[ClausL]

But... How do you know?

How do you know Arcanist won't be a requirement for Blue Mage or Red Mage down the line? I'd love to know where you're getting your sources, as well as your idea that your opinion = fact.

you think a Carbuncle summoner is going to progress into Blue Mage or Red Mage?

[SkyeWindbinder]

you think a Carbuncle summoner is going to progress into Blue Mage or Red Mage?

Why not? Pugilist was a sub-class requirement for black mage. lol

[Forgo]

Why not? Pugilist was a sub-class requirement for black mage. lol

she has a point...