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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I don't think the subclassing and taking skills from the other jobs needs to be done away with, just the class to job progression. There would still be freedom and options if they rehaul it properly. I stand by my opinion that the way its done currently is needlessly convoluted.

    I mean even if you like it, surely you can agree that it AT LEAST needs some work?

    Elaborate on how the system is comvoluted. I think It's very straight forward. You equip a job stone and become a specialized role with a few new abilities. You don't equip a job stone and you stay as a class with much more freedom of costomization and play style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    Anyone know if they're getting rid of the job system for ARR?

    the class/job system is totally pointless and confusing.

    they should just combine classes and jobs into one thing.

    who agrees that this is a horrible system which should be scrapped?

    it's a real turn off to new players, because it makes no sense.
    LOL it definitely does make sense. It's not that bad at all.

    It's explained to you when you start the game...Isn't that enough? It's practically spoon fed! Did you play XI? Probably not...I'm sure you'd be even more confused about subjobs....

    You must be Trolling. You must be.
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    XI had a pretty great job system, if you ask me. It was way better than this garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I guess I was just hoping Yoshi-P would fix it =/

    to most people it seems confusing and redundant

    seriously, try explaining the job/class system to a friend or new player... and explain why it's needed.

    would it not just be better if there was just 'jobs', you started as a Dragoon from the get go? the whole class & job thing is bizarre

    I'm not against every game mechanic, I'm looking forward to ARR. why are you attacking me? Kind of rude/low class. I asked a legitimate question.

    Yoshi-P has changed a lot so I thought maybe he would toss out the job system.
    ummm most new players get the class/job system...its not all that hard...in fact its easier then what your making it out to be....You would have to be like....8 years old not to figure out how to work it >.>
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    As soon as you used insults, you lost any chance of proving your point. Although it's also true for those who bruttaly attacked you.

    Here's an argument against you, though...new players don't have access to jobs, and by the time they hit their first level 30 class, they probably understand how the game works, so the jobs won't confuse them.
    So, your major point is...pointless
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 04-02-2013 at 02:39 AM.

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    It's not entirely the matter of whether it will confuse people.

    why is it necessary to begin with? It isn't. it's just a useless crappy system that shouldn't even exist anymore IMO.

    It's funny how Yoshi-P is so willing to scrap tons of 1.0 elements that weren't really that bad yet they're holding onto the armory system which most people never liked.
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    The armoy system and the job system are two different things.

    Even if you could chose you class regardless of your weapon, you could still equip a soul crystal that restricts your cross-classed abilities and gives you job specific ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    which most people never liked.
    [citation needed]
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    Still think you're trolling, OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsy View Post
    [citation needed]
    well, MOST people never liked XIV in its entirity, at least based on the active subscriptions/server populations before 1.23 was taken down... I think that much should be telling that the armor/job system wasn't loved, as it's a big part of the game.

    if you want specific examples that most people don't like it, look at any other XIV related forum for proof. You'll find dozens upon dozens of negative posts regarding the system.

    you just won't find much criticism for FFXIV on the official forums because it will get greeted with similar responses that are ITT; gtfo, troll troll troll, dont feed the troll, it was perfect, fanboy comments.
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