Power supply for 25.00. Sketchy, much?

[Kirei]

I'm in the middle of updating Far Cry 3 to do a "gaming load" reading but here is my idle at the moment. My room is cooler today. This is just room temperature with my big fan blowing inside. I'd say its the room is in the high 50s *F.



Here is the direct link if you cant see it. Here

[Shura]

I'm in the middle of updating Far Cry 3 to do a "gaming load" reading but here is my idle at the moment. My room is cooler today. This is just room temperature with my big fan blowing inside. I'd say its the room is in the high 50s *F.



Here is the direct link if you cant see it. Here

Your voltage and cpu temps look fine. As Dhalmel pointed out, its normal for the temps to be slightly higher or lower then the rated temp.

[JillyBean]

Shura, and others~ Well, I am here to report! I would first like to let you know that your diagram was spot on! The red Power Switch area worked, and then just put the other LED's in after that (watching my - and + ) I didn't plug anything into your yellow area, there was no reason.

Did the transfer today, it was hell getting everything out of that Dell case, but here is is, beautifully installed into the Corsair 400R



The little Rosewill cooler is also in there, as you can see, also used Pro-PK1 paste, and with all of these upgrades, I've gotten significant improvement on my temps. My idle temps are down at least 5c, more really, maybe even 7+. Running the ARR benchmark for over an hour for my personal test, I have temps minimum of 10c cooler, really closer to 15c cooler both on the active temps (which fluctuated from 40-50, 52 tops) to the max spike temp of 59. Those temps used to be in the 60s, with max spike 73c.

I did have one follow up question - I now have 4 intake fans (2 140's at the top, 2 120's in the front) and 1 exit fan (120 in the back). Wouldn't I maybe want to put at least one more, maybe 2 exit fans? I was thinking maybe one on the bottom, next to the Power supply. The other possible locations are on the side.

I can't thank you enough for all your help in putting these improvements into action! I could not have had the confidence to do this without you guys

[Dhalmel]

Your top fans are configured wrong. Heat rises so the top fans should be configured to be an outlet. When you're using a air heat sink it should always be an outlet, even more so if the video card is the type that expels heat inside the case. Only in some water cooling solutions should the top fans be an intake.

Front: Intake
Side: Intake
Bottom: Intake ( I don't recommend using this if the bottom fan location doesn't have a dust filter)
Rear: Outlet
Top: Outlet

Remember that the more fans that you add more noise there will be and the more dust can be accumulated in a given time. I'm a noise sensitive person so I typically lower the case fan speed when there are more

Honestly for what you have you really wouldn't benefit any more from adding more fans.

Also I see you have the CPU 4pin power plug routed in a odd way. There should be a hole above that location to route it through the rear to the top.

[JillyBean]

I flipped the fans on top, they are now in exhaust position, blowing up and out, but oddly, the temps are 2-4c warmer than before the flip.

I can fiddle/test a bit more tomorrow, but what do you make of this?

[Shura]

I flipped the fans on top, they are now in exhaust position, blowing up and out, but oddly, the temps are 2-4c warmer than before the flip.

I can fiddle/test a bit more tomorrow, but what do you make of this?

The build looks absolutely amazing; the cable management looks superb, better then the state most so called "professional" builds come in. This next part here is just me nitpicking so feel free to ignore it completely if you like; this is just for aesthetic purpose and won't affect your PC performance in any real way.



Anyway now on to more real matters. The reason why your temp went up is because before you had air blowing right on your heatsink but now that you made the top fans exhaust, you lost that air. Don't get me wrong though, the top fans are usually meant to be exhaust so the real issue is with the overall airflow in the case atm. You now have more exhaust fans in your case then intake and not to mention the only intake fans you have are further away from the CPU heatsink. Also your 2 140mm aftermarket fans on top are probably better quality then the 2 120mm stock fans on the front; this situation is creating an uneven airflow and since the heatsink is not high end, the overall cooling suffers. This is partially my fault, at the time i recommend that specific cpu cooler, it was under the assumption that it was to be used in your old dell case. I apologize for that, i would of recommended something else all together if i knew we would be using a better case.

The best option now is to probably get 2 more 140mm fans and attach it to the side panel as intake fans; this will blow cool air on both your cpu heatsink and gpu. If your using the molex connector to power your front 2 fans, then you should still have 2 more 3/4pin inputs left on the spliter. If you don't then try to buy fans that come with the adapter cable, Nzxt fans tend to come with the 3pin to molex with each fan. You can also attach one at the bottom beside the PSU but i think you will benefit more by attaching to the side panels.

Also for the FP1 input, good to hear the power switch works; for the LED i figured those were for LEDs but i was guessing as to which is which LED. Make sure the power LED on the case is always solid and not blinking, if its blinking then you probably have it in the HDD LED input. If both LEDs are working then all good but if only one is, then the 2nd is probably the pins labeled as "Reset Switch". Feel free to play around with it a bit "If" its not working as intended, no harm long as you know where + and - are.

Congratz on getting your build up and running, it really looks amazing^^, makes me want to do upgrades on my own build lol.

[JillyBean]

The build looks absolutely amazing; the cable management looks superb, better then the state most so called "professional" builds come in. This next part here is just me nitpicking so feel free to ignore it completely if you like; this is just for aesthetic purpose and won't affect your PC performance in any real way.



Anyway now on to more real matters. The reason why your temp went up is because before you had air blowing right on your heatsink but now that you made the top fans exhaust, you lost that air. Don't get me wrong though, the top fans are usually meant to be exhaust so the real issue is with the overall airflow in the case atm. You now have more exhaust fans in your case then intake and not to mention the only intake fans you have are further away from the CPU heatsink. Also your 2 140mm aftermarket fans on top are probably better quality then the 2 120mm stock fans on the front; this situation is creating an uneven airflow and since the heatsink is not high end, the overall cooling suffers. This is partially my fault, at the time i recommend that specific cpu cooler, it was under the assumption that it was to be used in your old dell case. I apologize for that, i would of recommended something else all together if i knew we would be using a better case.

The best option now is to probably get 2 more 140mm fans and attach it to the side panel as intake fans; this will blow cool air on both your cpu heatsink and gpu. If your using the molex connector to power your front 2 fans, then you should still have 2 more 3/4pin inputs left on the spliter. If you don't then try to buy fans that come with the adapter cable, Nzxt fans tend to come with the 3pin to molex with each fan. You can also attach one at the bottom beside the PSU but i think you will benefit more by attaching to the side panels.

Also for the FP1 input, good to hear the power switch works; for the LED i figured those were for LEDs but i was guessing as to which is which LED. Make sure the power LED on the case is always solid and not blinking, if its blinking then you probably have it in the HDD LED input. If both LEDs are working then all good but if only one is, then the 2nd is probably the pins labeled as "Reset Switch". Feel free to play around with it a bit "If" its not working as intended, no harm long as you know where + and - are.

Congratz on getting your build up and running, it really looks amazing^^, makes me want to do upgrades on my own build lol.

Thanks ^^ Next time I open it up I'll have a look at your areas of suggestions. I do know there was no other way I could see to deal with the CPU fan cable as Dhalmel had mentioned.

The part I bolded in your post makes perfect sense. I have ordered two more of the quiet Corsair 140mm fans and two of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999226 to avoid fast dust accumulation. I'm loving the idea of two of these fantastic corsair fans blasting outside air on the CPU and GPU. This makes great sense to me.

Please no worries about any of your suggestions. Who knew the trip this quest for lower temps would take me on lol! Maybe one day I will move on to your favorite liquid cooler but for now (after putting in the side fans) I think I'll be quite content. I have learned SO MUCH, it has been really awesome experience.

In the meantime, my temps are still minimum of 10c cooler than before these changes. By changing the top fans to exhaust, I've just temporarly lost the "10 to 15+c" part. The active fluctuating temps during benchmark are still 15c improvement over the dell situation, they were close to 20c before I flipped the fans. Once I get two fans blowing in from the side, there will be more improvement.

I will say one negative thing about the case, and I may even write my first review at Newegg about it.... the power button cable very easily comes unplugged at the top of the case, and it's extremely annoying and difficult to get to to plug it back in. I installed my 2 CD/DVD drives in the lower 2 bays (leaving the top two open) just because of this ~ so hands can fit in there to access that plug area when/if it comes out. It happens just about every time you get back in the case to do something. This definitely counts for at least an egg!

Again thanks guys! And please feel free to post any additional advice that may come from this post!

[Shura]

Thanks ^^ Next time I open it up I'll have a look at your areas of suggestions. I do know there was no other way I could see to deal with the CPU fan cable as Dhalmel had mentioned.

Think he was referring to the same cable i was in my diagram, the one with the red lines and not the fan cable coming from the CPU cooler. I referred to it as the 8pin cable, since most new boards use 8pin but just noticed on yours its only using 4pins so that maybe where the confusion happened.

In the meantime, my temps are still minimum of 10c cooler than before these changes. By changing the top fans to exhaust, I've just temporarly lost the "10 to 15+c" part. The active fluctuating temps during benchmark are still 15c improvement over the dell situation, they were close to 20c before I flipped the fans. Once I get two fans blowing in from the side, there will be more improvement.

Indeed, this case will probably last you for 2 more builds unless you decide to go full tower or with a E-ATX board in the future. Other things you can upgrade in the future is the CPU cooler(something like the H60 or H90) and the stock fans that came with your case(2 front and 1 rear) These are not really that important at the moment though, probably best to change them when you upgrade the entire system.

I will say one negative thing about the case, and I may even write my first review at Newegg about it.... the power button cable very easily comes unplugged at the top of the case, and it's extremely annoying and difficult to get to to plug it back in. I installed my 2 CD/DVD drives in the lower 2 bays (leaving the top two open) just because of this ~ so hands can fit in there to access that plug area when/if it comes out. It happens just about every time you get back in the case to do something. This definitely counts for at least an egg!

Again thanks guys! And please feel free to post any additional advice that may come from this post!

You can play around with different routing methods till you find one that works, switches don't have a ground so + and - don't matter, you can flip it around if it helps. Since cases and motherboard come in different designs there tends to be hiccups like these.

This is a personal request but if its not to much trouble, would love to see pics of the inside and outside of your build once your done.

[Coris]

Wow! Looks super-tidy! Wish mine would look like that!
Tried my best with zipping and sorting the cables, but the opportunities in my case seem to be not that good as in your case. I'd have trouble changing it on my own since my ATX plug is acting nasty. Wasn't able to pull it out again or push it in any further -.-
Also, I don't have a mATX board and my new graphics card is even longer than my mobo (old card had same length) xD'

Wishing you lots of long and awesome gaming sessions with your pimped PC!

[JillyBean]

Yes, that cable, but the other end of it ... up top in the front of the case at the front panel that it comes unplugged ("their end" basically). It doesn't come unplugged from the motherboard.

Wayyy wayy up inside behind the power button area. Top right of the pic. Unseen by this camera angle.