Don't panic! Yoshida said everything'll be all right after Wada's resignation

[ClausL]

True. I think the topic creator thinks nobody should have to take any accountability, even with so much money and so many people's jobs at stake.

Square Enix should just keep paying Wada millions of dollars a year because he's 'funny on the live videos'.

[Abriael]

The game that have failed under his lead was mostly has fault, He could have said about FFXIV 1.0, um.. this needs a lot more work and give a thumbs down! He greenlighted FFXIV 1.0 and it failed ( example).

It's not a CEO's responsibility to judge or "say" if a game needs more work. That is in no way or form part of his job description.

It's the developers' responsibility to make that judgement and the producers' responsibility to relay that judgement to the executive board, the CEO and the CFO.

That's to say: You're completely off target.

True. I think the topic creator thinks nobody should have to take any accountability, even with so much money and so many people's jobs at stake.

Square Enix should just keep paying Wada millions of dollars a year because he's 'funny on the live videos'.

Are you a shareholder? Otherwise I see no reason why you'd be worried about who is paid for what.

Wada has taken responsibility for the financial losses. That has nothing to do with accusing him to be personally at fault for FFXIV's failure, which is an extremely ignorant thing to do, for reason that have already been explained and you didn't in any way manage to counter.

[Starlord]

It's not a CEO's responsibility to judge or "say" if a game needs more work. That is in no way or form part of his job description.

It's the developers' responsibility to make that judgement and the producers' responsibility to relay that judgement to the executive board.

That's to say: You're completely off target.



Are you a shareholder? Otherwise I see no reason why you'd be worried about who is paid for what.

Wada has taken responsibility for the financial losses. That has nothing to do with accusing him to be personally at fault for FFXIV's failure, which is an extremely ignorant thing to do, for reason that have already been explained and you didn't in any way manage to counter.

If you think so, I'm just putting my two cents in, not looking for an arguement.

[Abriael]

If you think so, I'm just putting my two cents in, not looking for an arguement.

I don't think so. I know so, as that's the standard division of roles for executives, producers and developers in basically every major gaming company.

Executives make decisions based on what producers tell them, and producers base them on what developers tell them.

When you're the last link of the chain of a technical decision process and you have no technical expertise on the subject of that decision it's very unlikely that you're personally at fault for a wrong decision, and throwing that kind of personal accusation without firm elements is far fetched and illogical.

[Starlord]

I don't think so. I know so, as that's the standard division of roles for executives, producers and developers in basically every major gaming company.

I know your attitude towards everything :P "It's my way or the highway" XD /trolling because like I said.. not looking for an argument.

[Abriael]

I know your attitude towards everything :P "It's my way or the highway" XD /trolling because like I said.. not looking for an argument.

If I tell you that 1+2=3 it's not because of my attitude. It's because it actually equals 3.

[Starlord]

If I tell you that 1+2=3 it's not because of my attitude. It's because it actually equals 3.

And you are right! /claps

[Elexia]

If you think so, I'm just putting my two cents in, not looking for an arguement.

Starlord, the mistake you made was you were "wrong", and he has to correct you even though you're correct. When one of your lead developers say "this needs more time", the higher ups, the one who runs the company and are in charge of all things business, has the say so in "ok you get more time!" or "no push it out by x!"

Then again, maybe in 2009-2013 businesses work differently, everyone can do what the fuck they want with or without investor/high up say so.

[Abriael]

Starlord, the mistake you made was you were "wrong", and he has to correct you even though you're correct. When one of your lead developers say "this needs more time", the higher ups, the one who runs the company and are in charge of all things business, has the say so in "ok you get more time!" or "no push it out by x!"

Then again, maybe in 2009-2013 businesses work differently, everyone can do what the fuck they want with or without investor/high up say so.

Of course you're completely forgetting the very solid (and actually much more likely) possibility that the executive board (because in 2009-2013 or before this kind of decision isn't taken by the CEO alone in any kind of sizable company, when the CEO has any part at all in taking it, as it's often often taken below the highest executive levels) was misadvised about the state of readyness of the game.

It's not the CEO's (or the executive board's) role to gauge the state of readyness of a game. They don't have the technical know-how to do so, and they're not required to have it. They take informed decisions based on the data provided by producers, that base their reports partly on their own experience and partly on other reports provided by the team leads.

If you think Tanaka went to Wada on his knees to beg for more time and was single handedly told by Wada "FU, just release and stop whining!" I see a lot of naivete there.

Mind you, the lapse could or could not be Tanaka's fault. Considering his role he may have been misadvised himself (while the fact that the Producer is the crucial link between developers and executives means that he has the biggest chances of having been the source of the issue, we still have no elements to firmly state that he was). The simple meat of the issue is that we don't know where the problem was, and throwing personal accusations based on nothing is completely childish.