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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    I've typed up two posts that have failed to post
    Dude, did you do that thing where you type out PAGES in the Quick Reply box and then accidentally click the giant [+ Reply to Thread] because your brain implicitly thinks, "Yeah, that's what I want to do!" and then it takes you to a new window and dumps the whole thing and your back button does nossing?! NOSSSSIIINNGGG?!

    I do that ALL THE DAMN TIME. I fracking hate that button.

    Anyway, that's an interesting take on things... I, too, am looking forward to what on Hydaelyn drives this conspiracy.

    In the meantime, I found more information that both supports and necessitates changes to my theory:

    In the Marauder storyline, Waekbyrt recruits you into the Bloody Executioners, a pirate gang at the core of the Marauder's Guild (Marauder is called Executioner in the Japanese verison) run by the Astalicia's captain. Waekbyrt flat out says:

    Quote Originally Posted by Waekbyrt
    If he takes the Admiral's chair, that makes me an official Knight o' the Barracuda
    So, in 1562, Lominsa's Admiral is new, he's male, and anyone on his crew is now officially a Knight of the Barracuda. If the events of Shapeless Melody show the first night Swallowtail Roam appeared, and if Y'shtola's invesigation takes place in tandem with Thancred's in Ul'dah, it makes sense that it is in this gap of time that Sthalmann's captain wins the Trident and makes him, who we see to be a respected man on the echo ship, a Commodore.

    This means, in context, if the above is true, that we should be looking far closer at how Y'shtola got there and why she was able to basically jump three months ahead into her investigation.

    HOWEVER, Hyllfyr has been captain of the Astalicia for ages. He's a reputation unmatched in Eorzea. He didn't win the Trident before, or he'd be dead. So maybe it wasn't the Astalicia we saw in Shapeless Melody...

    I think it's time I restart my analysis of Treasures of the Main with a fresh and open-minded lens and really just hit the books on this.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 03-21-2013 at 05:51 AM.
    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
    – Y'shtola

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    I'll have to reflect on this further, but I think just due to the striking similarities between Sthalmann and Rostnstahl (same scar on the eye, same beard, same complexion) that it can't be Hyllfyr. He doesn't look similar at all. That and Moose gave a good explanation on the naming earlier. Stahlmann = man of steel, Rostnstahl = rusty steel (a man fallen from grace)
    No, Moose is correct, Sthalmann and Rostnstahl are definitely one in the same, no question. He is *also* the original Hyllfyr. He was replaced by a dark-skinned, two-eyed, white bearded chap after he took on the Sthalmann identity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Here's a really good post about Hyllfyr and The Bloody Executioners (I took your advice and Google'd it)l
    That text is from the 1.0 website.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Dude, did you do that thing where you type out PAGES in the Quick Reply box and then accidentally click the giant [+ Reply to Thread] because your brain implicitly thinks, "Yeah, that's what I want to do!" and then it takes you to a new window and dumps the whole thing and your back button does nossing?! NOSSSSIIINNGGG?!
    No, some token error. Refreshed and I was still logged in. Reposted, same error. Logged out, logged in, minipost. Stupid site/browser.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I think it's time I restart my analysis of Treasures of the Main with a fresh and open-minded lens and really just hit the books on this.
    You in chat? It'll probably be quicker if I can discuss stuff with you instead of doing long posts back and forth. What I've found doesn't fit with the couple of statements you just made
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