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    Lienn Deleene
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    Unfortunately seens that this dev team received FFXI documents instead of FFXIV.

    So just expect all that was planned at start to be discarded and replaced with copy/paste content from FFXI. I guess they might only stop when the RMTs take over Eorzea, so they will need to bring "someone" (Lord Voldemort, the one that the name can't be said =P) back to scare them away.
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    I think it is solo friendly on the lines that you CAN solo, rather than have to group for any progression at all. that was FFXI's mistake in the beginning and for an extremely long time after. Anything 10 ranks above you can be solo'd, and that is where the EXP caps off too.
    It is still more beneficial to do things in a group rather than solo, but the game doesnt prevent you from soloing should you not be able to find a group. If they made SP too grand in proportion to grouping, people wouldnt group and become lone wolves.

    Its actually best to go "hey you random and similarly ranked person, let me share my leve sp with you." rather than go it alone.
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    Naylia Petrova
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    Solo friendly means that you can get on and progress your character without needing a party...this game is very solo friendly. Solo friendly =/= Same SP Efficiency as Partying.
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    I actually have all that stuff
    [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]

    Notice they are making dungeons for those who wanna party up? notice they have pretty much left all overworld plans the same for the solo players and will probably stay that way and considering leves are as solo friendly as they come I don't know what you're complaining about.
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    Chezen Lightbreak
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    I'm largely a solo player, and I haven't had any problems with the changes so far. The game favors parties, but thats ok, I expect that in any mmo. I actually prefer not to level fast, as I likely won't be able to do much of the endgame content soloing anyway. It's about the journey for me. Endgame is pretty much always dungeons, which I like ok, but I honestly prefer open world fighting to dungeons.

    Yoshi-P did comment that he would be making sure there was content for all types of player lifestyles in Player Poll the 2nd, question 3. http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...16083b634f7678
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  6. #16
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    I'm sorry man but you're just pulling numbers out of your ass I've actually soloed a job from 1 to 50 when most mobs were giving below 100 sp each. Even if doblyns and coblyns are tougher now then before you can still incap their armor and still manage 16k -18k an hour around optimal ranks without fatigue.

    If you took all the time you spend whining about SP and actually went to get sp solo or party you'd be surprised how much sp you would be getting.
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    This game is solo friendly, but not so solo friendly it makes partying worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    I think it is solo friendly on the lines that you CAN solo, rather than have to group for any progression at all. that was FFXI's mistake in the beginning and for an extremely long time after. Anything 10 ranks above you can be solo'd, and that is where the EXP caps off too.
    It is still more beneficial to do things in a group rather than solo, but the game doesnt prevent you from soloing should you not be able to find a group. If they made SP too grand in proportion to grouping, people wouldnt group and become lone wolves.

    Its actually best to go "hey you random and similarly ranked person, let me share my leve sp with you." rather than go it alone.
    I actually just finished doing a leve with a random, they called it on.
    It was much more entertaining then solo, fights were more intense and worth it.
    And yeah after retrying leves it's all about skill set ups, AOE spam, lol. Was fun enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    I'm largely a solo player, and I haven't had any problems with the changes so far. The game favors parties, but thats ok, I expect that in any mmo. I actually prefer not to level fast, as I likely won't be able to do much of the endgame content soloing anyway. It's about the journey for me. Endgame is pretty much always dungeons, which I like ok, but I honestly prefer open world fighting to dungeons.

    Yoshi-P did comment that he would be making sure there was content for all types of player lifestyles in Player Poll the 2nd, question 3. http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...16083b634f7678
    Thanks for the comment. After rereading that, it's clear that they are still planning on making this game entertaining for everyone. I'm really intrested to hear what they have planed for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Honz View Post
    I'm sorry man but you're just pulling numbers out of your ass I've actually soloed a job from 1 to 50 when most mobs were giving below 100 sp each. Even if doblyns and coblyns are tougher now then before you can still incap their armor and still manage 16k -18k an hour around optimal ranks without fatigue.

    If you took all the time you spend whining about SP and actually went to get sp solo or party you'd be surprised how much sp you would be getting.
    Gonna go with voicing my opinion isn't recommended on these forums?

    Congradulations for all the effort you put into leveling your job from 1-50, but I ain't you.

    I feel no need to crawl to 50 while everyone around me is doing a full out sprint. If you have patience for that, more power too you, I don't.

    FFXI was awesome as in the grind to 75 was rewarding the whole way through, the only difference is at this point in my life that my time is more precious. I don't have 6+ hours a day to grind. I've like 6 hours a week, tops.

    I understand that it's hard for people to grasp that have all the time in the world and are content with the way the game is currently, but SP is messed up, it's all over the place and in no way favours the solo player, it deters you from wanting to solo (me anyway, sorry for the opinion! or expressing the way I feel. Whatever seems to be bothering you).

    Anyway, I was mostly just trying to poke at the devs, see if they could give a response to what their plans are to counter this.

    I have patience though, I can wait it out. Guess I was just asking.

    Thanks for the comments everyone!
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  9. #19
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    OP, I do understand where you are coming from. I suppose this game is solo friendly in the sense that you can do just about anything by yourself including rank up all the way to 50. However, grouping is far, far more efficient that solo'ing is in some respects, particularly when it comes to battlecraft leves and leve linking. Of course grouping should be more efficient, but personally, if a group of people does the same thing I do and gets 5x the SP that I do solo'ing, and it takes them less time, then I consider that pretty unfriendly for solo'ing.

    Admitedly, I think the game is very solo friendly at the lower ranks. I'm having quite a bit of fun running around The Black Shroud while ranking up my R29 class. But by the time you are getting into your R40 leves, it is painfully slow to rank up solo as opposed to the decent pace you can achieve in a group.

    As for behest though -- if the 8-man limit is a problem you've encountered, have you considered trying another camp? That may be difficult for R40 behest (really, has anyone moved out of broken water?), but for R30 and R20 there is always the La Noscea camps which are reasonably active.
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  10. #20
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    You may also need to think about how you approach these mobs, as a mage going solo on a guildleve, of course I have a ranged which is kinda unfair, but anyways, I have to think about where I approach mobs and how I pull them. For a dd this might be harder, especially if they haven't released your ranged attack yet (like gla I believe have throwing knives but no one made them, or had a recipe, not sure if its implemented now)
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