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    That doesn't look 75% optimized to me.

    besides, I don't know how much 'optimization' they can do.

    they're trying to force a game onto 8-year-old hardware that simply can't handle it.

    if the game is running like that in town areas, imagine the PS3 version in a big boss fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    That doesn't look 75% optimized to me.

    besides, I don't know how much 'optimization' they can do.

    they're trying to force a game onto 8-year-old hardware that simply can't handle it.

    if the game is running like that in town areas, imagine the PS3 version in a big boss fight.
    I'll be the first person to disregard the PS3 in any way I can. However, making a judgement call this early, when they said it's not done and they know the problems and are working on them, is premature. Not to mention that to record PS3 Footage you have to use a camera, you can't capture it with something like Fraps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    That doesn't look 75% optimized to me.

    besides, I don't know how much 'optimization' they can do.

    they're trying to force a game onto 8-year-old hardware that simply can't handle it.

    if the game is running like that in town areas, imagine the PS3 version in a big boss fight.
    Sounds like you really have no idea what you're talking about.

    In fact, we had similar tearing and FPS issues in an earlier video of the Windows version that everyone jumped all over, yet now the game appears to be running smoothly on the Windows end of it.

    PS3 is likely the same thing, they are aware of the issue, they are taking actions to fix it AND the PS3 beta isn't even the first or second phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    That doesn't look 75% optimized to me.

    besides, I don't know how much 'optimization' they can do.

    they're trying to force a game onto 8-year-old hardware that simply can't handle it.

    if the game is running like that in town areas, imagine the PS3 version in a big boss fight.
    I'm quite sure they know better than you how much optimization they can do. Thanks for your concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    I'm quite sure they know better than you how much optimization they can do. Thanks for your concern.
    This post needs a 2nd, 3rd and 4th like button.

    @OP
    It's easy to be a so-called expert from an arm chair and while this may sound harsh, you are nobody to tell them what they are capable of. Any such statements on your part are nothing more than baseless conjecture.
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    I'm not sure why I'm getting insulted. They have shown us footage of FFXIV-PS3 running at extremely low framerate. do you think the extra 25% optimization really change the final product much?

    and the PS3 hardware's specs and what the console is capable of are well known by now

    Cut it out with the "SE CAN DO NO WRONG" attitude, people... look at the evidence, they shouldn't be releasing FFXIV for PS3
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I'm not sure why I'm getting insulted. They have shown us footage of FFXIV-PS3 running at extremely low framerate. do you think the extra 25% optimization really change the final product much?

    and the PS3 hardware's specs and what the console is capable of are well known by now

    Cut it out with the "SE CAN DO NO WRONG" attitude, people... look at the evidence, they shouldn't be releasing FFXIV for PS3
    It's not an 'SE can do no wrong' attitude, the frame rate is taking a hit because hi, it's not fully optimized.

    Again, you're no expert and you're kicking your toys out of the pram. If you don't like FFXIV on PS3 then don't play it, enough said, but wait til beta phase 3 rolls around before gracing us with your oh-so-enlightening judgments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I'm not sure why I'm getting insulted. They have shown us footage of FFXIV-PS3 running at extremely low framerate. do you think the extra 25% optimization really change the final product much?
    Yes, because we saw the EXACT same change in the optimization of the PC version. The Windows videos that we saw a while back suffered from the exact same issues that we just saw with the PS3 version, and they have been corrected through the optimization.

    This isn't an "SE CAN DO NO WRONG" attitude, this is looking at it logically. YOU need to review the evidence, because you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

    You're one of those people who look at a single video and draw every single conclusion you have from that single source and nothing else. Therefore, you are ignorant and wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I'm not sure why I'm getting insulted.
    You're not getting "insulted". You're being told you're wrong.

    I guess some people take that as an insult, but it isn't.

    They have shown us footage of FFXIV-PS3 running at extremely low framerate. do you think the extra 25% optimization really change the final product much?
    As a matter of fact, I don't think so. I know so.

    and the PS3 hardware's specs and what the console is capable of are well known by now
    Only massive ignorance about computer hardware causes people to make a direct comparison between PC specs and console specs. Consoles run on a single hyperoptimized configuration, as opposed to the myriad of configurations on PC, which means that they can be juiced a lot more for power than a PC with the same specs.

    Let's not even go into the fact that the PS3 has a completely different architecture, that alters performance quite masisvely as well.

    The PS3 has been proven capable of running MMORPGs, and there's no reason to believe that FFXIV will be different.

    Cut it out with the "SE CAN DO NO WRONG" attitude, people... look at the evidence, they shouldn't be releasing FFXIV for PS3
    You brought absolutely no evidence that "they shouldn't be releasing FFXIV for PS3". Your very personal and highly uninformed opinion is no evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    You're not getting "insulted". You're being told you're wrong.

    I guess some people take that as an insult, but it isn't.


    As a matter of fact, I don't think so. I know so.



    Only massive ignorance about computer hardware causes people to make a direct comparison between PC specs and console specs. Consoles run on a single hyperoptimized configuration, as opposed to the myriad of configurations on PC, which means that they can be juiced a lot more for power than a PC with the same specs.

    Let's not even go into the fact that the PS3 has a completely different architecture, that alters performance quite masisvely as well.

    The PS3 has been proven capable of running MMORPGs, and there's no reason to believe that FFXIV will be different.



    You brought absolutely no evidence that "they shouldn't be releasing FFXIV for PS3". Your very personal and highly uninformed opinion is no evidence.
    SPOT ON!

    The ps3 is a monster in its own right, it will never outperform a pc with higher end hardware. I think the only thing i read that Yoshi said about the ps3 was memory issues but that was it. This game is gonna run smoothly on the ps3 i have no doubt.
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