The growing entitlement issues of the casuals

[Zenaku]

My pc is broken. I have a Bios registry error. What happen was my pc wasn't updating to vista pack 2 or 3. So i tried putting windows 7 on it so I could play. My pc kept freezing and blue screening ( massive error ). When I tried doing a Bios update it pretty much no longer loads. It turns on that about it.

And its pretty childish to talk bad about a person you don't even know. And judge them over playing a game or not. You need a registration code to post on these threads

And I wasn't threatening, but warning people that your posting can reflect your game. Since these are official Game forums, if your temp ban on the forums, your temp ban from the game. Its all In the guidelines.

And a good % of my posts were misread, misunderstood, or people taking what I said out of context.

Fact is though I never stated the game must be to what I want. Others have stated that. Including the OP. I just want a fun game. Even if something isn't to my liking I'll still try it out.

Did not seem like that maybe you should try and put your words better i know for one get that lot so i understand you there.

I'm a computer repair so does your pc even load too the bios setting? because if it does you still can fix it even if it a bios problem you can use a USB to fix it. I never heard of a problem like that but then again there so much stuff a pc can happen that i fix before that are pretty close to that.


Btw i post this before even a person that have less time can do everything in the game it's how you use the game so even if your hardcore or casual it does not matter because even a person who play 15hours can be a person that pretty much log in and take everything very slow so at the end he a casual player who play 15hours. Making two event helps but there way you could make it into one it does really matter.

Also please use the edit so you don't make two post in the same page right next to each other. you can easy use the edit bottom and put @name to post something new. Maybe less ppl would think you not posting just for point count if you do that. i know for one would have been by 1k post count if i did what you do if i want to say something new. at least wait too 2-3 ppl post so you can post what you want or just edit right away.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

@ zen ps3 has text field limitations. Or i would. ta I know I can get it fixed Just no money atm. My job is pretty bad atm. But so kinda best choice is just wait for ps3, and maybe sell my pc for parts if I can.

[TheVedis]

so much for staying away from this thread, knew you couldnt resist

[Dubont]

@ zen ps3 has text field limitations. Or i would. ta I know I can get it fixed Just no money atm. My job is pretty bad atm. But so kinda best choice is just wait for ps3, and maybe sell my pc for parts if I can.

lol why are you back? But since I'm a nice guy...

http://www.pcmech.com/forum/computer...os-change.html

[Zenaku]

@ zen ps3 has text field limitations. Or i would. ta I know I can get it fixed Just no money atm. My job is pretty bad atm. But so kinda best choice is just wait for ps3, and maybe sell my pc for parts if I can.

Ahh i see then wait at least when someone else post before making your own so it does not seem like you just trying to do it for post count. just trying to help you out not a lot of ppl like you on here. Even think your views are way to bold but hey everyone on here so far is like that too. I just hope SE can fix it for everyone.

[Bled]

maybe you did not read " But she can post but problem is her " her views of hardcore is wrong. problem is many players think that wasting 10hours a day = hardcore. when i see a hardcore and casual players is like this.

Player1: players 10hours a day does not try to get best item talk to friends and help others. Levels pretty low and enjoy the game. = Casual

Player2: Plays 4hours a day try to get all the item in the game and set he/her time trying to make ends meet in the game. Have pretty high levels and found way to level with limit time. Hardcore

Player3: Plays 10hours try and get everything in the game have everything player2 have just a little more.

player4: Log in play the game does a few things does not really try to get stuff but is more lay back. = casual

And the only reason i'm using the terms like "Casual" and "Hardcore" is to show others what i'm trying to say. There more and more and more type of players. Players that only level up mage only level up buff class only level up pet class. Only level DD class. Only does craft which btw everyone is the reason craft our class in this game.

SE said they going to try and make this game for everyone. So casual need to understand that hey you don't need to waste 6hours to get something you can waste 1hour if you can't get it then try other day. It's how you use the time that you have. In every game they going to be item that take hours and hours to get if there not then it's not that cool if everyone is walking around with it.

This goes for everything even NM that our 24hours Casual can do them. Hey HNM "???" pop in one hour. Someone who play 4hours a day log in at the right time and goes and try it out and get a item. I think this is what players don't understand when i did HNM ya did them everyday for 14days walking up at 4am just to get a NM but i only woke up 5min before and set myself there before hand. This is the problem she not understanding.

What goes wrong here with the war of hardcore and casual is. oh if i waste 15hours hunting down this NM and you only been here 30min and got it you are lame and should have not got it. Or casual thinks that they should have everything that hardcore gets but within 1-3hours time. They need to be a mix if not then everyone going to b???. at the end SE going to do there best but ppl still going to talk and complain so what does it matter.

So at the end it's not how much you play. Because i hunt down a NM for 15hours and someone just log in and got it. Now i have the TOD log in tomorrow and get bi?? by someone just cuz i log in 5min before it pops. But am sorry just because you was here for 15hours does not mean should get such item, So just because you was here yesterday you have the right to get it today? that what most players would say too you but then again you bi?? at the playey for getting your nm how does that make sense in anyway?. or just because it took you 1year to get 75 and it took me 2month does not mean your more hardcore. It's just mean i play much better and took the time to understand a find the best way. It took me 2years to get 75 samurai. Took my gf 1year to get all the mage class 75 am i mad? ya sure it took me longer but she learn everything from me and find better ways of doing stuff and less the time. So the idea of casual and hardcore is wrong it's not about time it's about how you play such a game and luck.


FFXIV does not have to be a game like FFXI it can be fun and hard. both casual and hardcore want the something something the can enjoy and it be hard. We can have everything that is in FFXI but better and even players that have "1-4hours" a day can do.

Quoting your own writing you stated "in a way she does not have the right". sounds to me like you need to mean what you say and say what you mean. so please don't flip flop and say "o no i did not say that" when clearly you did.

I know her views are wrong that's not what I'm arguing, quoting myself "yes she dose not know the game as well as us i agree". You sir need to please read my and your own posts before stating that i did not read.

[Zenaku]

Quoting your own writing you stated "in a way she does not have the right". sounds to me like you need to mean what you say and say what you mean. so please don't flip flop and say "o no i did not say that" when clearly you did.

I know her views are wrong that's not what I'm arguing, quoting myself "yes she dose not know the game as well as us i agree". You sir need to please read my and your own posts before stating that i did not read.

It's goes both ways sadly In a way she does have the right because the players that are not players are what going to make FFXIV money and are the players. But then again there fixing the game right now for players that are playing and viewing there view to fix the game. but at the end they need the view for both so yes i did read i guess i put it in a wrong way so you misunderstood it i'm sorry next time i use my words better for that i'm sorry. this is what i really mean to say she have her view yes but right now this is beta testing and they looking at what players that are playing want and need to be fix. Right now her views are more about later like what they could add for the game stuff like events and such we like.

When they add something we can really see her view because she not playing so she have no idea how it going. SE are viewing the players who are playing see what they think up each update they do. She can give feedback on what she think she be done about what we talking about but more then 60% she dislike everything ppl come up to help out the problem with hardcore and casual. So for that eveyone dislike her and ppl think she post for post count if that true or not i don't care. anyways let's try and get back on topic.

[Bled]

It's goes both ways sadly In a way she does have the right because the players that are not players are what going to make FFXIV money and are the players. But then again there fixing the game right now for players that are playing and viewing there view to fix the game. but at the end they need the view for both so yes i did read i guess i put it in a wrong way so you misunderstood it i'm sorry next time i use my words better for that i'm sorry. this is what i really mean to say she have her view yes but right now this is beta testing and they looking at what players that are playing want and need to be fix. Right now her views are more about later like what they could add for the game stuff like events and such we like.

Yeah i get what your saying, and i agree that at this point in time Final Fantasy XIV is nothing more then an open Beta. Constructive feedback from this game is extremly important and thats something Kilta can not give. However we need to remeber she is a person, so we need to treat her respectfuly even if we view her posts pointless.

Its not like we have a ton of people doing this so i think we can make an exception.

[Zenaku]

Yeah i get what your saying, and i agree that at this point in time Final Fantasy XIV is nothing more then an open Beta. Constructive feedback from this game is extremly important and thats something Kilta can not give. However we need to remeber she is a person, so we need to treat her respectfuly even if we view her posts pointless.

Its not like we have a ton of people doing this so i think we can make an exception.

I think it's to late she not even helping herself with this problem so ppl on here lost all respect for her and most have even block list her. Maybe when she start playing it would change top many on here does the same thing she does so i don't understand. but w/e stuff happens i guess.

let's just hope SE does not listen to everyone and try and make this game theres with some help from us. i don't want to play a game that is 100% feedback from players they need to come up with there own ideas how to fix stuff. So far i'm liking that yoshi-p came up with two class system and at the end he the one who going to pick one not us tho i wish he does not pick the tree system but am sure a few like it.

[Bled]

I think it's to late she not even helping herself with this problem so ppl on here lost all respect for her and most have even block list her. Maybe when she start playing it would change top many on here does the same thing she does so i don't understand. but w/e stuff happens i guess.

let's just hope SE does not listen to everyone and try and make this game theres with some help from us. i don't want to play a game that is 100% feedback from players they need to come up with there own ideas how to fix stuff. So far i'm liking that yoshi-p came up with two class system and at the end he the one who going to pick one not us tho i wish he does not pick the tree system but am sure a few like it.

Luckily developers do not normally implement changes based on the forums. These forums are here so the developers can just get a feel for the community and see their voiced opinions. Very very very minimally do what we say have a direct impact on the game itself.

Edit: I not speaking of bug posts and stuff like that, I'm strictly speaking of content wise and game mechanics.