Is this game going to be solo friendly? or have you scraped that.

[ESAR]

wait what guildleves are not solo? then how come i can do them? maybe you putting them to many stars at low levels. If your level 33 doing a level 30 leve at 3stars then ya you can't do it but if your level 39 then yes you can everything in the game is very solo for the quest to the mission from craft too even level up your class.

They're casual friendly but I wouldn't call them solo friendly.

I'm not saying I can't do them, it just doesn't work out in the favour of solo friendly.

Most of the leves are 1vs2 or 1vs3.
And I find alot of times when I solo them they're either really easy or really hard, there's not quite that difficulty that is challenging and fun.

I'd rather fight stuff in the field and leave the guildleves to do with me and a few buddies since they more or less seem as if they were created for that purpose but they completely ruined field fighting.

I'm a patient dude but every time I go back to playing this game it just frustrates the hell out of me.

I'm mostly lost because I have no clue how they're going to promote new or retired players from reentering this game in it's current state.

I know they are making changes and I commend them for that, they all seem in the right direction, but when it comes to solo play it seems as if they have no desire to make it work.

[Zenaku]

They're casual friendly but I wouldn't call them solo friendly.

I'm not saying I can't do them, it just doesn't work out in the favour of solo friendly.

Most of the leves are 1vs2 or 1vs3.
And I find alot of times when I solo them they're either really easy or really hard, there's not quite that difficulty that is challenging and fun.

I'd rather fight stuff in the field and leave the guildleves to do with me and a few buddies since they more or less seem as if they were created for that purpose but they completely ruined field fighting.

I'm a patient dude but every time I go back to playing this game it just frustrates the hell out of me.

I'm mostly lost because I have no clue how they're going to promote new or retired players from reentering this game in it's current state.

I know they are making changes and I commend them for that, they all seem in the right direction, but when it comes to solo play it seems as if they have no desire to make it work.

You need to level up other class then Get cure get protect and shell get Stoneskin. Get stuff to help you that the point of playing solo, it's not about going and playing solo and not being hard they need to be some fun in to it. trust me if you get some other class level you see how easy soloing is. even without them i can solo a few leves i know a few are hard thanks to many mobs but there still behests which are now 30mins.

try and get what i told you it would help you solo.

[ESAR]

You need to level up other class then Get cure get protect and shell get Stoneskin. Get stuff to help you that the point of playing solo, it's not about going and playing solo and not being hard they need to be some fun in to it. trust me if you get some other class level you see how easy soloing is. even without them i can solo a few leves i know a few are hard thanks to many mobs but there still behests which are now 30mins.

try and get what i told you it would help you solo.

I actually have all that stuff
I'm more concerned with the way this game went from the direction of solo friendly, to not really worth it to solo.
I played FFXI for years and the biggest attraction this game had to me was the whole solo aspect.

I might end up just fighting field mobs but the amount of SP they give is ridiculous, if I use that as a way to level it will take me quite some time to get up anywhere.

My choices are now, find people to team up with, do guildleves (which I'm not finding all that entertaining solo) or try and fight for a spot in behest, which I have no interest in.

It's not that I have no interest in trying behests, but I'd rather not fight with people for a spot. I think having them as 8 man parties was an excellent idea. It'll raise the difficulties and strategies used in the fights. My only query now is the fact that you have to fight 20+ people for those 8 spots.

It's in my nature to feel guilty about just about anything and I can't bring myself to stealing what could have been someone else's fun, I'd rather just not bother with it.

It would be in their best interest not to discourage players in this fashion. For instance, what if someone has a slower internet connection, would it not be harder for them to get a spot, or what if they were far from the servers, that might affect their chances as well.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying lowering the party size to 8-man was a bad idea, I believe it was a great idea but creating yet another way to discourage players might not have been the wisest choice. Cutting the behest time in half does mean that an extra player per hour capable of doing behests, though this just means that the players with the quickest draw will get to play twice as much, which everyone else is left out feeling discouraged.

I just don't know what to do, I love final fantasies in general, the story telling is out of this world. They keep you trapped and engaged and fill you with emotions. Also, FFXI was the greatest game I ever played, just life got in the way lol, could no longer spend mass time playing. Alas, I've tryed other MMOs but none make the cut of as challenging as FFXI was.

I see a tonn of potential in this game or I'd of gave up on it already, I now see that their game engine is top notch and this game does not require the time sinc that FFXI did, but alot of what they're doing is making this game harder and harder to enjoy.

I'm excited, but discourage. I've yet to hear any mention on what's going to happen with SP. As far as I know this game is going to have one productive way to level, behests.. and with this new addition of 8-man parties, they're making it hard to even do that.

I know not many left will understand this but the way I want to play this game is come home from work or school, throw on the game and just solo level for an hour or two, saving partying and all that fun stuff for the weekends. The direction they're taking it I don't really know why I still play this game or care. I guess I"m just hoping that with the revision of SP they're going to fix what's broken and bring this game back to a solo friendly state. Not solo only, solo friendly, that's all I ask, that way I don't have to waste my precious time with all the preparations that we had to do in FFXI.

I'm sure the mid-high level battle content will be just as or more epic then in FFXI, but how are we to get there in a solo friendly manor without constantly feeling discouraged?

Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I consider myself a pretty intelligent guy and if I feel this way, I'd imagine others feel this way as well.
I think taking the solo aspect out of the game might have also caused alot of fallout with the player base. I'm still giving it a chance, popping back in here and there, seeing if they've righted their wrongs but for the last few months it seems as if the solo player has hit the bottom of the totem poll.

I really just want to know if I should give up on my dream of a solo friendly FF MMO or if all this time I've dedicated is going to pay off in the end.

At this rate I"m never going to hit any decently high level so I'll never get to enjoy the content they're getting ready to release.
I could just tough it out and play a game I'm finding little to no enjoyment in playing but I doubt I will.

I appreciate the advice, thank you
but it's not going to solve what I find wrong with the game.
I suppose I'll probably just end up soloing field mobs for that little to no SP. Hopefully it doesn't discourage me yet again. Or gezz maybe I'll try to master the art of the guildleve lol

Either way, they need to make leveling in this game as fun or more fun than it was in XI. I'm still a firm believer that Action based SP will make this happen but I"m not gonna put my hopes up. A majority of the player base has no idea of it's benefits and if majority rules I can kiss that hope goodbye.

Sorry for the novel XD

[Mack]

I actually have all that stuff

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Notice they are making dungeons for those who wanna party up? notice they have pretty much left all overworld plans the same for the solo players and will probably stay that way and considering leves are as solo friendly as they come I don't know what you're complaining about.

[ESAR]

I think it is solo friendly on the lines that you CAN solo, rather than have to group for any progression at all. that was FFXI's mistake in the beginning and for an extremely long time after. Anything 10 ranks above you can be solo'd, and that is where the EXP caps off too.
It is still more beneficial to do things in a group rather than solo, but the game doesnt prevent you from soloing should you not be able to find a group. If they made SP too grand in proportion to grouping, people wouldnt group and become lone wolves.

Its actually best to go "hey you random and similarly ranked person, let me share my leve sp with you." rather than go it alone.

I actually just finished doing a leve with a random, they called it on.
It was much more entertaining then solo, fights were more intense and worth it.
And yeah after retrying leves it's all about skill set ups, AOE spam, lol. Was fun enough.

I'm largely a solo player, and I haven't had any problems with the changes so far. The game favors parties, but thats ok, I expect that in any mmo. I actually prefer not to level fast, as I likely won't be able to do much of the endgame content soloing anyway. It's about the journey for me. Endgame is pretty much always dungeons, which I like ok, but I honestly prefer open world fighting to dungeons.

Yoshi-P did comment that he would be making sure there was content for all types of player lifestyles in Player Poll the 2nd, question 3. http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...16083b634f7678

Thanks for the comment. After rereading that, it's clear that they are still planning on making this game entertaining for everyone. I'm really intrested to hear what they have planed for this.

I'm sorry man but you're just pulling numbers out of your ass I've actually soloed a job from 1 to 50 when most mobs were giving below 100 sp each. Even if doblyns and coblyns are tougher now then before you can still incap their armor and still manage 16k -18k an hour around optimal ranks without fatigue.

If you took all the time you spend whining about SP and actually went to get sp solo or party you'd be surprised how much sp you would be getting.

Gonna go with voicing my opinion isn't recommended on these forums?

Congradulations for all the effort you put into leveling your job from 1-50, but I ain't you.

I feel no need to crawl to 50 while everyone around me is doing a full out sprint. If you have patience for that, more power too you, I don't.

FFXI was awesome as in the grind to 75 was rewarding the whole way through, the only difference is at this point in my life that my time is more precious. I don't have 6+ hours a day to grind. I've like 6 hours a week, tops.

I understand that it's hard for people to grasp that have all the time in the world and are content with the way the game is currently, but SP is messed up, it's all over the place and in no way favours the solo player, it deters you from wanting to solo (me anyway, sorry for the opinion! or expressing the way I feel. Whatever seems to be bothering you).

Anyway, I was mostly just trying to poke at the devs, see if they could give a response to what their plans are to counter this.

I have patience though, I can wait it out. Guess I was just asking.

Thanks for the comments everyone!

[Chezen]

Thanks for the comment. After rereading that, it's clear that they are still planning on making this game entertaining for everyone. I'm really intrested to hear what they have planed for this.

You're welcome.

I'm very interested too. While I don't expect to have endgame content aimed at soloers, I'm secretly hoping they will break ground and have a thing or two. Besides dailies I mean. It would be really nice if all storyline content was solo optional. Not holding my breath, but one can hope.