Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
I've played MMOs in my free time for many years and for me the biggest amount of pleasure has come from hanging with a really small group, like 2~4 people (close friends, husband etc) and just knocking out content where we could.
I was in a static group in FFXI with a full party's worth of people I knew in either RL or through extension of my RL friends. It was some of the most fun I ever had, even though we only played about 2 hours a day.

Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
Casuals are 100% required in MMO's to have a functioning economy. Casuals should just stop trying to dumb down content so the game can be completed by them (I am not refering to the story line, all should complete that).
A Casual is usually someone that has little time to play, not someone unskilled at the game.

FF11 the content lasted years and people loved it, as in 10yrs of planning to keep gear relevant and to keep these people who never stop playing always busy, the content never ended because it was well designed for everyone.
The content lasted years because it took a minimum of three days to gather enough crap together to fight Kirin only for it to take you three years to totally gear every person's main job in your LS thanks to the RNG lottery. Don't confuse by-design time sink with great game design.