The growing entitlement issues of the casuals

[TheVedis]

May be more productive to start a thread called " This is what Hard corer's want" and one for "This is what casuals want" maybe. In here seems fruitles to be honest.

yeah, lets be honest

90% of players in MMOs have entitlement issues regardless of what they are classified as lol

[Gracious]

yeah, lets be honest

90% of players in MMOs have entitlement issues regardless of what they are classified as lol

Totally agree with that.

[Nephera]

yeah, lets be honest

90% of players in MMOs have entitlement issues regardless of what they are classified as lol

Yep
Especially looking at this thread.

[Naylia]

Thevedis - I think most people here agree with that. The only thing that happens is these discussions get overlayed with discussions around 24hr pop NMs, which most casual players are against because you might never even see the content without reordering your life around a pop time.

I know that I am completely okay with challenging content that takes a long time to work your way through. Just give me the ability to work on it in manageable chunks. Long story arcs just need to allow me to pause and take break and resume later. Super long dungeons are great, but let me save my progress when I finish a floor and pick it up later. Never ending arenas are fine, etc...I'm even for extremely, rare HNM pops, but I'm of the opinion that a rare HNM attack should be an unexpected attach, not just sitting around during a random time waiting for it to pop.

EVERYONE wants challenging, engaging content to enjoy. As a player with less time to play, I just want to be able to save where I'm at and come back to continue working towards the objective later. Players with more advanced characters should be able to complete content faster, get gear faster, etc - because their characters are more advanced and they'll earn cool gear faster putting in time, and because they are 100 hours ahead of me in the game they unlocked content and story elements. But when I've put in that time (on my schedule) i should be able to be at a similar place as they were at 100 hours. It shouldn't be based on whether the 100 hours is consecutive or broken up into chunks. I know that's all I'd like.

I'm a member of a largely end-game LS - but I don't tag along on NMs (the real ones), and I don't expect them to hand me over any end-game gear. I appreciate when the 45 Armorer helps me craft something that I've collected the pieces for, but that's the point of having a community that interacts and works together. Players with less time on their hands just want to work towards the same goals at their own pace. We aren't expecing to be handed the results of the work faster. There will always be people who argue at the fringes to make things harder/or make things easier/or me me me, but I do not believe this is the bulk of the community. Most people just want a game they can sit down, play, enjoy, and make progress...and that progress should most certainly be tied to the aggregate time you spend playing, not just the time you spend per sitting.

[Kaedan]

what this thread has come down to is actualy the opposite of what you said
its a bunch of casuals complaining and clumping together what hardcores think and totaly ignoring anything but their own selfish whims thinking everything should be how they want it

hardcores want something
casuals tell them they arent allowed to have it
hardcores tell casuals they can keep their stuff, but they want something too
casuals tell them to get bent and that they will never get it cuz they dont matter

this is pretty much what this thread degenerated into long ago

Yup, very much this.
More specifically: "hardcores tell casuals they can keep their stuff, but they want something too" or hardcores suggest alternatives that would satisfy both camps, yet are ignored and attacked out of some sort of twisted "principle".

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Kilta is always right, everyone should listen to Kilta

sorry not gonna happen

why dont you drop it for a change, you got 2k posts ARGUING with everyone on everything you can find, and this is an issue in which half the posts in the thread are yours, i find that kinda funny

my point is valid, you just dont want to look at anyones opinions but your own cuz you know everything and everyone else is always wrong

automaticaly invalid. Sorry attack the topic not the poster.
this is my opinion
I want to have fun. thats it. I don't give a rats butt on anything else.
And fyi not all my posts are me fighting with ppl. Its replying to thread i find to have good ideas.

Also you do realise people do pull 1 thing in my posts and become overly critical, even if I agree with them over all.
I'm not saying i'm always right thats all in your head because your acting like an addict. All i want is this thread locked, anmd for ppl to stfu about pointless school yard fighting.

its a GAME.

[TheVedis]

All i want is this thread locked,

i have a btter solution
walk away and ignore the thread
others may want to discuss stuff, just cuz your done doesnt mean others dont have points to make

[Kaedan]

Just ignore Kilta, TheVedis... it's not worth fighting with her, and she's made it clear that her intention is to get the thread closed. Best to just not take the bait.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Yup, very much this.
More specifically: "hardcores tell casuals they can keep their stuff, but they want something too" or hardcores suggest alternatives that would satisfy both camps, yet are ignored and attacked out of some sort of twisted "principle".

Sorry these lies are going to far.... All anyone cares about is having fun. No need for the petty fights or mudslinging. Stop attack posters. Stop saying ooo you got a x amount of posts... really post count means nothing on here, stop using it as ammo to insult others. Stop acting like children is all i'm asking. And for a mod to lock the thread.

[Mugiwara]

automaticaly invalid. Sorry attack the topic not the poster.
this is my opinion
I want to have fun. thats it. I don't give a rats butt on anything else.
And fyi not all my posts are me fighting with ppl. Its replying to thread i find to have good ideas.

Also you do realise people do pull 1 thing in my posts and become overly critical, even if I agree with them over all.
I'm not saying i'm always right thats all in your head because your acting like an addict. All i want is this thread locked, anmd for ppl to stfu about pointless school yard fighting.

its a GAME.

lol troll more... (sarcasm)