I sort of wish players could only choose one job.

[ZakarnRosewood]

I'm impressed with how someone can type so much yet say so little. Its apparent that this game or genre will never be what you would like it to be. There are a few games that might pique your interest like the hardcore modes on Diablo 2/3. I honestly dont know how any MMO could ever live up to the standards you are asking for. They just arent that kind of game.

[KyahAlmasy]

I'm impressed with how someone can type so much yet say so little. Its apparent that this game or genre will never be what you would like it to be. There are a few games that might pique your interest like the hardcore modes on Diablo 2/3. I honestly dont know how any MMO could ever live up to the standards you are asking for. They just arent that kind of game.

I'm surprised that you can read so much, and yet understand so little.

I love the game, I love the story that drives our characters BUT I do NOT like the story behind the jobs. (White Mage, Black Mage, etc.) It felt rushed, shallow, and contrived. I can't really make it any clearer than that.

[ZakarnRosewood]

I'm thankful they even bothered to put them in in the first place considering at that point they had already begun the work on ARR. They put it in for us to try, as a fan service. You do realize they could have just shut down so they could have focused on the rebuild instead. Ya, a lot of 1.0 felt rushed. Are you surprised? Do you think this will be exactly the same in ARR?

If all you are doing is lamenting about something thats dead and gone, I apologize for interrupting. But if you are expressing this as a reflection of what ARR will be like, then i would like to see your crystal ball. As of yet, no one aside from dev's or possibly Alpha testers "might" have had a small sneak peak as to the plans for the rebuild. I'm pretty sure this team will be paying more attention to detail because so far they have done more for FFXIV then the first team ever did. They did it amongst heavy fire from Fans and critics alike no less.

[Charismatic]

Last name Almasy... same as Seifer.
FF8, a game where characters don't have set roles.

You know better. Its just that WoW's the only other MMO you've played. If you prefer it, feel free to go play it.

[Gramul]

You mean 3. For the NES/DS....

mnmokay.

[KyahAlmasy]

Last name Almasy... same as Seifer.
FF8, a game where characters don't have set roles.

You know better. Its just that WoW's the only other MMO you've played. If you prefer it, feel free to go play it.

Really? Their limit breaks would suggest otherwise. Each game has their own variation of what characters are capable of and how jobs work.

Quistis was a Blue Mage
Zell was a Monk
Selphie was a Corsair
Irvine was Ranger
Rinoa was a Sorceress/Black Mage (Unique to ff8 because that's essentially what the whole game is about.)

We can pass it off as mere coincidence that each one of these characters just so happen to posses abilities that correlate with a job, or we can acknowledge it for what is.

[KyahAlmasy]

I'm thankful they even bothered to put them in in the first place considering at that point they had already begun the work on ARR. They put it in for us to try, as a fan service. You do realize they could have just shut down so they could have focused on the rebuild instead. Ya, a lot of 1.0 felt rushed. Are you surprised? Do you think this will be exactly the same in ARR?

If all you are doing is lamenting about something thats dead and gone, I apologize for interrupting. But if you are expressing this as a reflection of what ARR will be like, then i would like to see your crystal ball. As of yet, no one aside from dev's or possibly Alpha testers "might" have had a small sneak peak as to the plans for the rebuild. I'm pretty sure this team will be paying more attention to detail because so far they have done more for FFXIV then the first team ever did. They did it amongst heavy fire from Fans and critics alike no less.

I have no idea what ARR will bring, I merely mentioned a few pages back that I felt that the quests leading to those jobs was so easy, that the idea that our characters could master everything sort of threw me from the game because it was cheaply contrived. I mean, I hope for ARR that earning the advanced jobs requires a little more effort, and that the backstory will be a little more developed than it was in 1.0. *crosses fingers* >.<

I understand why you'd feel that way though, from stumbling in mid convo it would seem like I was just bashing the game for the sake of it, but really I was just explaining why 1.0 made me wish we only had 1 job.

[Charismatic]

Really? Their limit breaks would suggest otherwise. Each game has their own variation of what characters are capable of and how jobs work.

Quistis was a Blue Mage
Zell was a Monk
Selphie was a Corsair
Irvine was Ranger
Rinoa was a Sorceress/Black Mage (Unique to ff8 because that's essentially what the whole game is about.)

We can pass it off as mere coincidence that each one of these characters just so happen to posses abilities that correlate with a job, or we can acknowledge it for what is.

You're being silly. Limit breaks being the sole determination of someone's "job" which is generally their role in the party lest we forget... it doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
Just imagine if I have my Irvine set to do nothing but heal... simply because he has shot limit breaks you'd call him a Ranger rather than a White Mage though his role is that of a White Mage (and malleable at that)?

Quite silly.

[KyahAlmasy]

You're being silly. Limit breaks being the sole determination of someone's "job" which is generally their role in the party lest we forget... it doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
Just imagine if I have my Irvine set to do nothing but heal... simply because he has shot limit breaks you'd call him a Ranger rather than a White Mage though his role is that of a White Mage (and malleable at that)?

Quite silly.

That would be like me, as a white mage wanting to be a DD because I have elemental spells. Making me a black mage, despite the fact that my arsenal of abilities suggests otherwise.

The spells you decide to use with them, doesn't change that the abilities unique to them classifies them in a job. Heck, even the wikis reference the characters with these jobs. You're simply trying to split hairs.

[ZakarnRosewood]

It's my hopes too that everything will be more flushed out and feel like the kind of story SE usually tells full of lots of intricate characters. it sounds like your beef isn't really with multiple jobs but instead you are using the single job method to hopefully fix a different problem.
With any luck after the 25th some of us will get a chance to wet our apatite on the beta. I dont know why but i have a feeling once we start playing, peoples perspectives might change. On many topics.