ARR and Mac

[Laume]

You will never see me posting with an iPad, I don't own one crapple product, Android and Linux all the way for me (unless I really need windows."

I'm afraid you're not telling the whole truth either. You use your windows machine more than your linux/android

[Klefth]

I'd also like to point out that one of you on this page, most likely Alhanelem, posted using an iPad....

Nice try at making assumptions, buddy.

[Carzilla]

Virtual machine at half the ram? You're quite clueless on the whole Mac thing aren't you? Bootcamp allows you to run Windows natively on a Mac, no VM, no hardware limitations. Pretty much the same as a dual boot Windows/Linux using Grub for example.

Well yea I am clueless on macs, They are nice machines but I dont think they are worth the money. What if you want to upgrade your video card can you open it and change it out? or do you have to spend another 2k for a new one? I like pcs better cuz I know an upgrade wont cost me an arm and a leg.

[Delsus]

I'm afraid you're not telling the whole truth either. You use your windows machine more than your linux/android

And that is where you would be wrong, I am on my phone a lot more than my Laptop and when I go on my laptop more often than not I boot into Ubuntu.

I take it your sig is hosted on your own website? It's the only legal way you could see who is looking at the forums, then you would have to go through the logs to monitor connections, Then you have to trace my MAC to my user name to say "you use Windows more than Linux" which will take time to recognize a pattern.

Even then it only shows that I visit these forums on Windows more, must be coincidence but I assure you I don't live on these forums, I do other things as well, The only way you can definitively say I use Windows most is if you have installed spyware on my laptop and are tracking me.

[Millerna]

Well yea I am clueless on macs, They are nice machines but I dont think they are worth the money. What if you want to upgrade your video card can you open it and change it out? or do you have to spend another 2k for a new one? I like pcs better cuz I know an upgrade wont cost me an arm and a leg.

Depends on the Mac. For their laptops, they're going more and more for a closed design with no easily user replaceable parts. Of course, upgrading a GPU on a laptop isn't easily done on most laptops in the first place. Things like batteries are also no longer replaceable.

iMacs have also been getting more difficult to upgrade parts, and currently I believe only the 27" allows adding RAM (it's a well known fact that buying RAM at Apple is stupid, and very few people do it). In reality though, iMacs are nothing but a laptop pasted on the back of a big screen (a very nice screen though)

Mac Pro is easy to add hard drives, GPU, RAM etc.

While I do have quite a few Apple products, I'm not really an iSheep. I don't HAVE to have every new iPod, iPhone, iPad and whatnot. I have an old Macbook Pro (approaching 7 years old now, my mother still uses it for gaming of all things ...) which I got as a bonus from work. I have a Macbook Air which I carry on the train to work every day and use as my main machine for coding. I have an iMac, which I also got as a bonus from my new employer and which is used in the hobby room for the most part, and I have a 5 year old Mac Pro, which I use for 3D modeling/rendering when needed as well as for gaming. In those 5 years I only added more RAM (it has 10Gb now) and a new GPU, and it runs the games I play just fine with high settings.

Before I bought the Mac Pro, I build my own machines. The last one I built I spent about 2 months just researching and gathering hardware that was proven/designed to work together, With the various upgrades over the 3-ish years I used it, it actually cost me a lot more than the Mac Pro. These days I just don't have the time to keep up with all the hardware and build my own machines, although I've been thinking of giving it a go again if the Mac Pro decides to call it a day.

Personally, I've used DOS, Windows since 3.11, Linux since before popular distributions made it easy, I even used BeOS and OS/2 for a while. In the end, for the work I currently do (and have been doing for quite a while), I feel most comfortable working in OSX, which is why I use it. On the other hand, I'm really interested in one of those Surface Pro tablet from MS, with it's Wacom licensed pen input, it should be great for quick sketching

[Laraul]

Well yea I am clueless on macs, They are nice machines but I dont think they are worth the money. What if you want to upgrade your video card can you open it and change it out? or do you have to spend another 2k for a new one? I like pcs better cuz I know an upgrade wont cost me an arm and a leg.

Here's an old video showing a video card upgrade on an older model MacPro. It shows just how easy these things are to upgrade. If you choose to boot into Windows it doesn't matter if you use a card from Apple or a card from anyone else as Windows runs naively. The cards firmware doesn't need to be designed for Mac Intel EFI. The same is true for MacOS X versions 10.7+.

If you do choose to use a video card intended for use in PCs in a Mac, you will see nothing on the monitors (connected to that card) until either Windows or OS X boots.

[Alhanelem]

I'd also like to point out that one of you on this page, most likely Alhanelem, posted using an iPad....

I don't own an iPad, sorry. If I get a tablet, it would probably be the windows 8 tablet Microsoft has coming. Whatever portable device might be in my future, I want it to run the same software that my desktop will run. Neither Android nor windows phone nor IOS does that (remote streaming doesn't count)

[Laraul]

I don't own an iPad, sorry. If I get a tablet, it would probably be the windows 8 tablet Microsoft has coming. Whatever portable device might be in my future, I want it to run the same software that my desktop will run. Neither Android nor windows phone nor IOS does that (remote streaming doesn't count)

Why don't you just get a netbook or laptop? The tablet you speak of has a battery life of 4-5 hours tops. Tablets that do exactly what you speak of have been around about a decade. And they we're a total flop. Windows and software designed for it was not very usable on the tablet medium.

[ispano]

Not to mention the tablet version, while being X86 iirc, will only be able to use Apps from MS' App Store type thing.

[Laume]

I don't own an iPad, sorry. If I get a tablet, it would probably be the windows 8 tablet Microsoft has coming. Whatever portable device might be in my future, I want it to run the same software that my desktop will run. Neither Android nor windows phone nor IOS does that (remote streaming doesn't count)

So which one of these are you?
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Those are the only requests that I see around the time that you posted.