Should this game be tailored for Final Fantasy fans or MMO fans?

[Yumi_Hibiki]

I'm sorry, reading what you wrote didn't really leave me with the impression you had a point. What was it again?

the only thing i can do for you is to kindly point you to this thread, you will see im by far not the only one that is annoyed by bunny hopping antics
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-About-Jumping
have a nice day

[Sheepdawg]

Bunny hopping...lol. Ohhhh CSS.

Bunny hopping refers to the act of constantly jumping at a specific timing to gain speed above which you can normally travel. Used in games like Counter Strike, it not only allows you to travel at ridiculous speeds, but it also alter the amount of noise you make. If you play FPS(First Person Shooters) games, then you know a good headset can really step your game up.

You may have seen in Call of Duty server "No Bunny hopping". This refers to the unrealistic tactic of jumping to create confusion in your enemy, and sometimes effectively dodging bullets. The reason its frowned upon in this aspect is that IRL, a soldier wouldn't rush at the enemy, constantly jumping to avoid fire.

Unfortunately i dont see how "bunny hopping" would be useful or detrimental to the world of FFXIV...aside from a buunch of people jumping around, causes additional load on the server or client? Other than that i dont ever see it becomming a problem. However i could be wrong. As i stated before, im not a hardcore MMO player, more FPS oriented, but i really dont see how jumping would be an issue in FFXIV.

[shanvhere]

There isn't as many FF fans to make this game work, they have to feed the MMO community to make sure this game last.

[Yumi_Hibiki]

Bunny hopping...lol. Ohhhh CSS.

Bunny hopping refers to the act of constantly jumping at a specific timing to gain speed above which you can normally travel. Used in games like Counter Strike, it not only allows you to travel at ridiculous speeds, but it also alter the amount of noise you make. If you play FPS(First Person Shooters) games, then you know a good headset can really step your game up.

You may have seen in Call of Duty server "No Bunny hopping". This refers to the unrealistic tactic of jumping to create confusion in your enemy, and sometimes effectively dodging bullets. The reason its frowned upon in this aspect is that IRL, a soldier wouldn't rush at the enemy, constantly jumping to avoid fire.

Unfortunately i dont see how "bunny hopping" would be useful or detrimental to the world of FFXIV...aside from a buunch of people jumping around, causes additional load on the server or client? Other than that i dont ever see it becomming a problem. However i could be wrong. As i stated before, im not a hardcore MMO player, more FPS oriented, but i really dont see how jumping would be an issue in FFXIV.

im not an FPS player so i wasnt aware now the term is used in this games its interesting that you get a speed boost, i thought they just jump becasue they think they are harder to hit lol, i refer to people that are bouncing like rubber balls because they are bored or whatever.
example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICK7rDO6WtY

[Otemori]

I don't believe that FFXIV will find any kind of success or longevity if it caters only to FF fans. Consider that the extremely successful World of Warcraft was built -upon- the original Warcraft mythology and then extended itself from that point. Granted, the line is blurred when crossing from FF to FF the MMO as the genre is already within the RPG realm rather than strategy.

The entire Final Fantasy franchise has a unique artistry in storytelling and in design that links together each sequel, but FF games are designed to be stand alone. It does not make sense to ask then that the MMO adhere to anything beyond the broader concepts that make Final Fantasy games so captivating. There needs to be progress, and I would like more than anything to see the progression of MMO's made in the spirit of Final Fantasy.
I do not think that FF as an RPG has found success through stagnance.

[gifthorse]

Ok say FF did copy the successful MMO formula, we'd have WoW, replaced with FF mobs and lore, and a few differences to make it feel like an FF game.

Oh wait a minute, I think someone already did that.

There's more to MMOs than FFXI and WoW...

[gifthorse]

I don't believe that FFXIV will find any kind of success or longevity if it caters only to FF fans. Consider that the extremely successful World of Warcraft was built -upon- the original Warcraft mythology and then extended itself from that point. Granted, the line is blurred when crossing from FF to FF the MMO as the genre is already within the RPG realm rather than strategy.

The entire Final Fantasy franchise has a unique artistry in storytelling and in design that links together each sequel, but FF games are designed to be stand alone. It does not make sense to ask then that the MMO adhere to anything beyond the broader concepts that make Final Fantasy games so captivating. There needs to be progress, and I would like more than anything to see the progression of MMO's made in the spirit of Final Fantasy.
I do not think that FF as an RPG has found success through stagnance.

This is brilliance, and exaclty what I am trying to say.

[trinta]

the only thing i can do for you is to kindly point you to this thread, you will see im by far not the only one that is annoyed by bunny hopping antics
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-About-Jumping
have a nice day

So again, you're basing who you think SE should listen to on your opinion about jumping features (see your original post). Again, nothing wrong with your logic.

[ShinChuck]

This thread has a serious need for punctuation. If you think "bunny hopping antics" are annoying, try reading entire paragraphs of run on sentences. Commas are not a comparable substitute for periods.

[Vesper]

It needs to be tailored to both to survive.h