1.0 Buddy pass works for ARR?

[Kirito]

Good luck with that, SE bought back all their old copies of FFXIV from retailers to destroy them months ago. I doubt you'll have much luck finding them outside of places like Ebay or Amazon, but those copies are likely useless for the most part unless your feeling lucky to find an unopened copy.

I bought my copy of the CE recently on amazon. I'm pretty sure it's new since I was able to register the security token; once a security token is registered it cannot be used on anyone else's account. If you deregister your security token then it becomes useless. Plus it had the full wrapping, new game smell and the back paper covering the ff14 symbol. But yeah be careful where you buy your copies of CE or the buddy pass since you won't be able to check if it works till code registration become available again, which will be in a few weeks. Luckily with amazon you can see the rating of your buyer and see what other people's experience was.

Will the current 1.0 account holders receive new buddy passes that can be used when ARR goes live even if they used the old ones?

That is very unlikely simply because it will waste the company money. Before it was more reasonable because this was only for the collectors edition.Their stand right now is the best. If you bought the collector's edition and you used the buddy pass now you and your buddy can upgrade to 2.0; if you didn't use your buddy pass then you still have time to. The only way I see them giving more buddy passes is if they plan to give it away for the new collectors edition. In which case we CE users will be able to upgrade.

[ZakarnRosewood]

That is very unlikely simply because it will waste the company money. Before it was more reasonable because this was only for the collectors edition.Their stand right now is the best. If you bought the collector's edition and you used the buddy pass now you and your buddy can upgrade to 2.0; if you didn't use your buddy pass then you still have time to. The only way I see them giving more buddy passes is if they plan to give it away for the new collectors edition. In which case we CE users will be able to upgrade.

I dont see how this would "waste" company money. Its like putting a demo up on the PSN. It gives a person who might not otherwise even try the game, a chance to see if they like it. I am a huge fan and supporter of demo's. I like to try a game out before deciding i want to throw $60+ at it. An MMO is a huge commitment, providing a buddy pass/free trial to people who already are playing it gives the pass user an intro to the game and friends to play with.

If they don't give 1.0 users another buddy pass, I'm ok with that. I just didn't feel your reasons for not giving one was valid. I used my buddy pass but my buddy played it for a couple days right at release, hated it, then quit. He dosent remember his log in info but has expressed a casual interest in trying it again but does not want to buy a copy if it still "sucks". Just thought it would have been kewl if they could send another one since so much has changed and it might bring back those with the sour taste of 1.0 in their mouths.

[Kirito]

I dont see how this would "waste" company money. Its like putting a demo up on the PSN. It gives a person who might not otherwise even try the game, a chance to see if they like it. I am a huge fan and supporter of demo's. I like to try a game out before deciding i want to throw $60+ at it. An MMO is a huge commitment, providing a buddy pass/free trial to people who already are playing it gives the pass user an intro to the game and friends to play with.

If they don't give 1.0 users another buddy pass, I'm ok with that. I just didn't feel your reasons for not giving one was valid. I used my buddy pass but my buddy played it for a couple days right at release, hated it, then quit. He dosent remember his log in info but has expressed a casual interest in trying it again but does not want to buy a copy if it still "sucks". Just thought it would have been kewl if they could send another one since so much has changed and it might bring back those with the sour taste of 1.0 in their mouths.

Well final fantasy mmo's aren't really the kind of games that give free trials. Sure ffxi gave out a 15 day free trial but that was after years and the trial didn't include all the expansions (I presume). But I also think that SE wants to let new players that gave up on the game after the beta or never played it an opportunity to try it out and decide whether they like it or not. That's what I think SE hopes to accomplish at phase 4, other than further testing that is. And if you friend forgot his log in info, can't he just find it by filling out the forgot ID/password part at the log in screen? If he has a lot of emails he uses then can't he just try them all? Or the worst case, call costumer service?

[ZakarnRosewood]

Well final fantasy mmo's aren't really the kind of games that give free trials. Sure ffxi gave out a 15 day free trial but that was after years and the trial didn't include all the expansions (I presume). But I also think that SE wants to let new players that gave up on the game after the beta or never played it an opportunity to try it out and decide whether they like it or not. That's what I think SE hopes to accomplish at phase 4, other than further testing that is. And if you friend forgot his log in info, can't he just find it by filling out the forgot ID/password part at the log in screen? If he has a lot of emails he uses then can't he just try them all? Or the worst case, call costumer service?

Fair enough, I forgot that 4th phase beta was going to be open. About the forgotten info, I'm pretty sure he could do that if he was genuinely interested. Again, i just thought it would be a nice gesture on SE's part to have buddy passes/free trials in some fashion at ARR's launch, a kind of gesture of good faith. "We have rebuilt the game, please come see for free how much has changed. The first hit is free kiddies!" just like a drug dealer, they get you hooked then show you the bill.