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  1. #61
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    I haven't noticed any multi botters around, but on Lindblum I've become suspicious of a couple of Lalafells in Limsa that sit around and craft all day. They don't seem to be botting in particular, unless they have specifics on their program running. They'll spam Hasty Hands for shards, if that fails then they normally try to finish their synth. Checking them, level 21 alchemists with all and only starting gear equipped. Lodestone pages show them with no physical level points distributed.
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  2. #62
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    There are tons of bots on Fabul I've reported and nothing done either.
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    I rip the axe from the head Covered in blood and brains Leave the body lying dead Ready to strike again
    My sword cuts through clothes and skin Like a hot knife cuts through snow I smile as the bastard screams When I twist my sword
    Sword in my hand Axe on my side Valhalla awaits me Soon I will die Bear skin on my back Wolf jaw on my head Valhalla awaits me When I'm dead

    Viking Job Please!

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva View Post
    There are HUNDREDS (if not comprising near 50% of a servers population by now) per server crafting fishing mining botany lvling etc.
    I'm not sure how accurate this assumption is, but at times it does feel that way.
    Sometimes players are too hasty to either suspect or report another player. I also think some spend too much time worrying and go around trying to prove that a character does in fact use third-party tools, when they should use that time focusing on themselves.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Like a lemming right over the cliff...
    Welp no matter. We'll save you from yourself if that's what we have to do.
    lol What? Have you realised you cant prove me wrong? XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    lol What? Have you realised you cant prove me wrong? XD
    No, I've given up hope in you coming around to the reality of the situation after you demonstrated you can't grasp critical components of this discussion.

    So to that lack of comprehension I simply say no matter. We'll do it for you.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    No, I've given up hope in you coming around to the reality of the situation after you demonstrated you can't grasp critical components of this discussion.

    So to that lack of comprehension I simply say no matter. We'll do it for you.
    What exactly is "it"?

    Played XI for 6 years and not once ever got annoyed with bots or hated them. Why? It never affected me. I made millions, I hit cap on many classes, I did many events and killed lots of NMs and had a whole lot of fun. Without thinking of botters or being jealous over them And they certainty existed fairly well there as im sure you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    What exactly is "it"?

    Played XI for 6 years and not once ever got annoyed with bots or hated them. Why? It never affected me. I made millions, I hit cap on many classes, I did many events and killed lots of NMs and had a whole lot of fun. Without thinking of botters or being jealous over them And they certainty existed fairly well there as im sure you know.
    Then you probably were either on some back water server with a low population or on a server with end game linkshells who did not shell out $2,000 on NASA.
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  8. #68
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    What exactly is "it"?

    Played XI for 6 years and not once ever got annoyed with bots or hated them. Why? It never affected me. I made millions, I hit cap on many classes, I did many events and killed lots of NMs and had a whole lot of fun. Without thinking of botters or being jealous over them And they certainty existed fairly well there as im sure you know.

    In other words, "I defend bots, because I don't know how they work! I have no understanding of economics, so I just assume they are there for the scenery! All those people saying there's somthing wrong is jealous of bots, and I wish I could be like them, if only for that TOS!"

    This is wrong, even if you don't know why, or refuse to know why.
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  9. #69
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    Seriously, these are at best 8th grade concepts. I would expect any proficient sophomore in highschool to be able to understand how damaging these activities are to economies. You worked harder than you had to because of cheaters in XI. You farmed longer. You spent more. You were further behind. You were less competitive. Without cheaters screwing up the separation of wealth differentials, these games stay reasonable. When they are allowed to dictate how money and how assets talk, voices of real players get extinguished and you pay and you work how much they say you work to afford what they sleep though and get.

    What I guess I shouldn't expect is that same sophomore to write the same essay if they are directly being paid off by those activities. Really, a teenager and a corrupt politician behave in the same naive ways: they use concrete operational thought to convince themselves of, believe and say whatever they think most directly benefits them, rational thought and logic be damned.

    Get this ****ing bot and 3rd party hack off the server. Period.
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    Last edited by Peregrine; 04-18-2011 at 11:30 AM.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    I can give you one good reason your typical internet forum poster would be okay with it.
    They do it.

    I can give you a second good reason.
    They buy cheap **** from them.

    No surprise that a town crafter would condone that bot. It's producing ores and keeping prices low. It's the miners who are like **** that.
    im a town crafter(most of the time) and i personaly HATE bots
    sure i love cheap mats, but there is a line to be drawn and ou just cant support it regardless

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