Additional Jobs for the future, a graphic, need help.

[Duelle]

Within fantasy lore sure but not within Final Fantasy tradition of how the jobs are presented.

I prefer to think of them using a different aspect of the bard. One that fits the bard concept (again, rogue archetype offshoot) while being more appealing gameplay-wise (which, like it or not, was the huge problem with BRD in FFXI).

You think that isn't a precedent for them to say make Samurai a spear user?

I don't, as I know the type of rage that would be unleashed if SAM's relic was something other than Masamune.

Have jobs and classes as separate entities, classes can still mix and match and solo. Jobs can still be more role specific but classes role in jobs would be more akin to a sub job but take on the dual role of also determining your attack range and weaponskill access.

I'm not quite buying this. I am fixated in ensuring PLD with a staff never takes over how PLDs play ever again, so it'd take a lot more effort to convince me otherwise.

[Alaltus]

I'm not quite buying this. I am fixated in ensuring PLD with a staff never takes over how PLDs play ever again, so it'd take a lot more effort to convince me otherwise.

I know what your saying i hated that for both PLD and RDM. >.< But beyound just outright not allowing them on said jobs, it would come down to the developers to ensure that the weapons defined and excelled in their intended role such as the shield. Rather than be completely outclassed by some enhancement effects on a certain batch of weapons >.> burn in the fire Elemental staves!

[Mardel]

I would think something like this, however a lot of them would be interchangeable. Like an Animist in the Morpher spot, Ranger instead of Hunter. A lot of it just depends on what naming scheme they like. Hardest one for me was the ninja path... because I get the feeling they would want to stay away from the name "Rogue" and use something more FF like.

Musketeer (class) >> Fusilier (job) , Corsair (job)

Fighter (class) >> Samurai (job), Parivir (job)

Lancer(class) >> Dragoon (job), Templar (job)

Marauder (class) >> Warrior (job), Dark Knight (job)

Gladiator (class) >> Paladin (job), Lanista (job)

Pugilist (class) >> Monk (job), Berserker (job)

Fencer (class) >> Red Mage (job), Spellblade (job)

Morpher (class) >> Beastmaster (job), Blue Mage (job)

Conjurer (class) >> White Mage (job), Elementalist (job)

Archer (class) >> Bard (job), Hunter (Job)

Thaumaturge (class) >> Black Mage (job), Sage (job)

Arcanist (class) >> Summoner (job), Scholar (job)

Thief (Class) >> Ninja (job), Assassin (job)

[Pendactyl]

From the new FFXI expansion page in regards to Geomancy:


"This heretofore unknown type of magic centers around either the geomancers themselves or their trusty luopans. While undeniably potent, a geomancer's true thaumaturgic power can only be unleashed by equipping special bells made solely for geomancers' use."

This would be a pretty cool second job for THM.

[DoctorMog]

Well, lets reopen the discussion.

Branching jobs confirmed!

[Lucke]

Summoner = Offensive
Scholar = Defensive/Heals

[Pendactyl]

Very exciting news! Now back to spec! I love the pics on page one btw.

[KaiKatzchen]

Wow Mog this is great... I love some of the things you're thinking!

[AlaulaTheGreat]

Bay said he wanted us to speculate, lets gooo!

[hideka]

I was bored today and came up with what I feel makes about 85% sense in my mind as to where additional jobs would go if added on to existing classes. I also added 2 new base classes. Ninja and Freelancer (not to be confused with Lancer)

Anyone else have any ideas where new classes and jobs would go?

I'm interested in making a master image of what makes sense, for my own boredom, and to perhaps help express our ideas to the devs as to which classes/job the community would like to see, and the progression of those classes/jobs.

This image currently has 2 tiers, but making a third made my brain hurt, so if you are like me, and would love a third tier, what/where would you add?

#1:


#2 Revision:
Muskateer moved to class - Ranger takes its place.
Corsair job added to Muskateer class.
Rogue made class, Ninja moved to Job. Samurai removed for now.


#3 Revision:
Added Gunner job to Muskateer:


#4 Revision:
Templar Job added to Lancer Class (Lance and Shield)
Dark Knight job moved to Gladitaor class (Switched with Berserker from Marauder)
Freelancer Class changed to Fencer Class
Parivir added as class.
Samurai added as job from Parivir.


#5 Revision:
Shepherd class (DoL) added
Beastmaster Job moved to Shepherd
Scholar job moved to Arcanist Class
Necromancer takes its place as a Job from Thaum
Samurai Job moved to Lancer Class.
Removed Parivir for now.



Feedback appreciated,

I will update the image as well.

Unfinished business:

Thoughts on SAM from LNC? (SAM has used Lances in past FF titles was my thinking)

What do you think of the Green mage, Scholar, Red mage and Blue mage placement?

I will be making a few more graphics after this one.

• 1 class to 1 job image.
• 3 tier (perhaps having to combine multiple jobs to get there) graphic.

you know, i actually dont see them using Fencer. i think Gladiator will be the basis for redmage, and it will use WHM/BLM as its subs.