Additional Jobs for the future, a graphic, need help.

[Nayito]

Archer+ Ranger, Pilferer+ Thief are kind of the same so why have those jobs either? =P Gunner is a staple job for that weapon so atleast if your gonna use that as an excuse be consistant. A chemist like job would be nice to see. Could easily be a job for Musketeer, cannon user class or perhaps a gadget user class? Thief too could take up the mix command ala ffx though i can see that being a controversial move.

Wasn't an excuse, just my train of thought.

Nayito I must admit I'm a little confused at some of the combinations you have listed there.Are you throwing the requirements we have now out such as MAR + GLA =WAR because you have GLA + PGL = WAR; or are you saying the need 3 classes to get a job now.I think we should base everything off the current job requirements.

Not the requierments to get the job, but the classes that you can use abilities from. Each class can get abilities from all of the classes, but each job can get abilities from 2 classes. At least that how it was in V1.

gotta do my disco first:

Make Jobs their own, and classes build them. Stop restricting jobs, stop restricting classes.. Just finally separate them lol

Onto your point, I think you can certaintly build Samurai from a lancer class BUT Samurai MUST be able to use a katana.

If there is a Samurai who can't use a katana I will buy a plane, fly to SE office, 'land' my jet in their parking lot, and flip Yoshida's table, then I will buy a moogle plushie and swim back.

as IndigoDarkwolf said, not excuding SAMs from Katanas them having the option to use polearms

Nayito and I are just going to have to disagree about the Necromancer. :P Would NECs in FFXIV also retain their undead status from FFV, and thus take damage from attempts to heal them?

I was going for more a look/stype, THMs have more of a darker look, and it's kind a fiting with NECs. Geomancers look toooooooooooooooo cute hahahaha

[Volsung]

Or they can make it so when you equip the soul you can then also equip the special weapon.

However I believe they should have a class for every weapon type - else its another reason why I'll think the "armory" system is bad.. lol (inconsistencies = not good). Since its not armory if things are leaking through just for the sake of "I cant figure out how to make this idea work", if it doesn't work you change it or get rid of it.

Yea, I'm sure they could find a work around, it would just suck to have to keep a class weapon around just so you an use a job weapon lol!! But on your second point, I'd be ok with a great katana class, that branches into samurai, and something completely new

GKT class: Vagrant, sturdy fighter similar to war that regains TP quickly for WSs, does not have WAR AoE power
job 1: Samurai, 4 string WS combos, one tp ability, and extra max TP
job 2: (actually I think it would be really cool to let mystic knight use GKT )

[Nayito]

Or they can make it so when you equip the soul you can then also equip the special weapon.

However I believe they should have a class for every weapon type - else its another reason why I'll think the "armory" system is bad.. lol (inconsistencies = not good). Since its not armory if things are leaking through just for the sake of "I cant figure out how to make this idea work", if it doesn't work you change it or get rid of it.

I agree with you completly, I think there should be 1 class 1 Job. but caught on the thread late and the idea of 1 class 2 jobs had been stablished already. Also i think SE said something on those lines too

as for job specific weaps, they could make it like they've already made it. when you equip your Relic, wich is job sclusive, the sould equips automaticly

[CptGrimlock]

Not the requierments to get the job, but the classes that you can use abilities from. Each class can get abilities from all of the classes, but each job can get abilities from 2 classes. At least that how it was in V1.
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Thank you for clarifying but if I'm not mistaken the abilities you can use on jobs are taken from the 2 classes it is unlocked from?Are they not?

[Nayito]

Thank you for clarifying but if I'm not mistaken the abilities you can use on jobs are taken from the 2 classes it is unlocked from?Are they not?

you need only 1 class to unlock the job


Paladin_ Gladiator, Level 30 & Conjurer, Level 15.
Monk_ Pugilist, Level 30 & Lancer, Level 15.
Warrior_ Marauder, Level 30 & Gladiator, Level 15.
Dragoon_ Lancer, Level 30 & Pugilist, Level 15.
Bard_ Archer, Level 30 & Conjurer, Level 15.
White Mage_ Conjurer, Level 30 & Gladiator, Level 15.
Black Mage_ Thaumaturge, Level 30 & Pugilist, Level 15.

[CptGrimlock]

I agree with you completly, I think there should be 1 class 1 Job. but caught on the thread late and the idea of 1 class 2 jobs had been stablished already. Also i think SE said something on those lines too

I also think the route SE most likely will go is 1 job per class,for now anyway.Someone posted about releasing Arcanist and Musketeer in limsa to make each city have 3 classes/jobs.Then with an expansion release 3 more classes/jobs with Ishguard.I could see that happening then maybe further down the road branching off to having more than 1 job per class.

It is mind numbing to think of all the possibilities;I'm sure the good people over at SE have thought of all this and then some.

[Zenaku]

You still would need to go through the quests to get the Berserker skills though. So sure, you could have the level 50 stats, but you'll need quests to get the skills.

I really don't think it would be that different from now (or in 1.0, at least) where you could change to a 50 class while doing your early quests for a job class other than your first.

As for suggestions:

Instead of Musketeer having Corsair and Gunner, maybe Corsair and Machinist?
Puppet Master would be better suited to Shepard than Puglist, IMO.
Replace Puppet Master on PUG with Dancer instead.

Other than those, I think the list looks good and actually follows my way of thinking in how classes/jobs should be handled in 14. Roughly 10 "Base Classes" with each class having 2 job classes.

ya that what people don't get jobs are for quest and story plot while Class is for grinding and lot's of it

[CptGrimlock]

you need only 1 class to unlock the job


Paladin_ Gladiator, Level 30 & Conjurer, Level 15.
Monk_ Pugilist, Level 30 & Lancer, Level 15.
Warrior_ Marauder, Level 30 & Gladiator, Level 15.
Dragoon_ Lancer, Level 30 & Pugilist, Level 15.
Bard_ Archer, Level 30 & Conjurer, Level 15.
White Mage_ Conjurer, Level 30 & Gladiator, Level 15.
Black Mage_ Thaumaturge, Level 30 & Pugilist, Level 15.

Funny Nayito...you must be trolling Me

[Nayito]

Funny Nayito...you must be trolling Me

i'm not T_T
i got that from here
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/39024

[CptGrimlock]

you need only 1 class to unlock the job


Paladin_ Gladiator, Level 30 & Conjurer, Level 15.
Monk_ Pugilist, Level 30 & Lancer, Level 15.
Warrior_ Marauder, Level 30 & Gladiator, Level 15.
Dragoon_ Lancer, Level 30 & Pugilist, Level 15.
Bard_ Archer, Level 30 & Conjurer, Level 15.
White Mage_ Conjurer, Level 30 & Gladiator, Level 15.
Black Mage_ Thaumaturge, Level 30 & Pugilist, Level 15.

You say you only need 1 class then you go and list 2 classes per job One @ 30 and the other @ 15.That's all I was saying all along.You just didn't have any of those combinations on your previous list.That's all I just think maybe you miss understood Me.Great ideas though I'm not hating^^